Reply to: Suggestions for Tax advisors that can help newcomer posters

[lowpaidworker]

and of course, the ever popular

Don't bother, just negotiate with HMRC yourself.

Given most tax advisors and not picking on any for negotiating a settlement, charge around 1000 plus vat to agree sums which are readily available online or one can do themselves I personally think the charge is a bit steep.

The value add is really because HMRC staff do not know what they are talking about which for me is the real issue. The problem we all have is once you agree to something if it conspires they HMRC were wrong but you sign on the dotted line then tough cookies. I really believe this is a fundamentally incorrect approach and we should never been in that situation. If the sums were wrong and HMRC actually charged too much tax this should be adjusted or corrected. From what I can make out LCAG are trying or pushing for this to be corrected for those that are settling.

[Saleos]

If it is the same person, he may well know how some of the schemes were operated: Revenue & Customs v Hyrax Resourcing Ltd & Ors (INCOME TAX/CORPORATION TAX : Anti-avoidance) [2019] UKFTT 175 (TC) (05 March 2019))

Gordon only became a Director of PPHOS 23 September 2015. He took on what others wouldn't and has to put up with libellous BS like that spouted by NS1.

[NotAllThere]

It seems the current not-WTT/BG recommendations, among all the , are:

Cobham Murphy (John Green)
https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...ml#post2837264
https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...ml#post2837409

Gilbert Tax
https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...ml#post2837383

Matt Hall or Gordon Berry
https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...ml#post2837150

and of course, the ever popular

Don't bother, just negotiate with HMRC yourself.

[Invisiblehand]

So the thread is about tax advisers that can help people and yet mostly contains posts about nothing to do with the subject.

In any sensible professional forum having mods of any sense the errant posts would have been removed and the posters permabanned.

Luckily for posters the mods have no sense. Before my permaban,. I am trying to collect infractions from all 4 mods. I doubt I will get that far.

Are you here to recommend Phil Manley like you used to?

[dammit chloe]

So Hoey is represented by a former scam peddler.

Lancashire's advisors doesn't have clean hands either.

Cough. Rebus. Cough.

[Darkpaw]

So Hoey is represented by a former scam peddler.

Might be better that someone who knows how a scheme works is capable of defending the scheme? Besides, Matt Hall is doing this for free.

As I'm affected by Hoey, my contributions since 2011 have been about £600 in total, and for that my APNS have been stayed, and we've gone to the FTT and the UTT. Seems quite reasonable.

[BrilloPad]

So the thread is about tax advisers that can help people and yet mostly contains posts about nothing to do with the subject.

In any sensible professional forum having mods of any sense the errant posts would have been removed and the posters permabanned.

Luckily for posters the mods have no sense. Before my permaban,. I am trying to collect infractions from all 4 mods. I doubt I will get that far.

[ns1]

I thought it was common knowledge that Matt Hall and Gordon Berry were scheme operators back in the day?

That is precisely why I have never trusted them.

So Hoey is represented by a former scam peddler.

Lancashire's advisors doesn't have clean hands either.

[huntingground]

I thought it was common knowledge that Matt Hall and Gordon Berry were scheme operators back in the day?

That is precisely why I have never trusted them.

[Iliketax]

Gordon Berry
https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...ml#post2837150

If it is the same person, he may well know how some of the schemes were operated: Revenue & Customs v Hyrax Resourcing Ltd & Ors (INCOME TAX/CORPORATION TAX : Anti-avoidance) [2019] UKFTT 175 (TC) (05 March 2019))

[eek]

Err, what?! You seem to be having a minor misfunction.

Read my full post and think for 30 seconds - oh and look at Superfly's post about Cobham Murphy. The reason he posted that is because someone else mentioned them in the thread.

Just by naming possible firms others will come up with reasons why we shouldn't list them or highlight areas they may not be any use for.

[starstruck]

I list of people to go to is better than having them pay £30 (the current google rate) for you to click and visit their.

Err, what?! You seem to be having a minor misfunction.

[eek]

that is genius, now you're saying no recommendation is better than a bad one I'm going to fall off my chair laughing. Is that not exactly what I've been saying for days and you've been hammering on about how you have to recommend someone? (you don't need to answer - yes it is!)

You clearly haven't paid attention to the umbrella industry - the cowboys pay a fortune for clicks and adverts while legitimate firms can't afford it. A list of people to go is better than them going to google and clicking a top link for which they will be paying say £x a click (if an advert) or £10k for SEO work to be at the top of the list for the search term used.

Plus it's better to have a single list of names that we can then scrub people from rather than adding them later without that check.

And in my ideal world we would have a long list of firms with either recommendations, no comment or reasons not to use

But once again you criticise without thinking I may have a very valid reason for making the suggestion while demonstrating that you don't think hmm there may be a reason why he's suggesting that.

[starstruck]

Even a list of none recommended firms is better than hitting google and going for the firm that offered the most for the click through...

that is genius, now you're saying no recommendation is better than a bad one I'm going to fall off my chair laughing. Is that not exactly what I've been saying for days and you've been hammering on about how you have to recommend someone? (you don't need to answer - yes it is!)

[eek]

if we want that just google loan charge tax advisors. Bring up nealry a dozen who claim to have exprience or will help and from what I can see an undisclosed fee

Even a list of none recommended firms is better than hitting google and going for the firm that offered the most for the click through...