Reply to: Legal Challenge v Loan Charge

[lowpaidworker]

Hi,

Just wondering, how this is funded? Is there an organization which is doing this? Do they need financial support? Can I become a paid member with them?

Thanks

There are a few. LCAG are doing great work and most you see in the press recently is being done by them. Their aim is to either remove the Loan Charge or at least get it valid from the royal ascent and remove the retrospective. Here is the link - 2019 Loan Charge Action Group (LCAG) - Loan Charge Action Group

You can join LCAG for a one off charge. They are also crowd funding a judicial review. you will find more info on the above link.

I joined a few months back and never regretted it since.

[swathingmold]

Legal challenge support

Hi,

Just wondering, how this is funded? Is there an organization which is doing this? Do they need financial support? Can I become a paid member with them?

Thanks

As people may be aware from the ridiculous news of me injuring myself....I was in London yesterday. I was meeting up with LCAG and a (very) well known QC. In fact it was the steps outside the Chambers that I managed to fall down which wasn't exactly the impact i was hoping to have. Nevertheless...

There is a legal challenge against the LC and its an excellent one in my opinion. More news will be out over the coming week. Long way to go but its a genuine light and one we should all be delighted to see.

More info over the coming weeks but it was an extremely positive meeting and has provided a real chance of success. Clearly there will be a lot of questions and so LCAG/myself/a n others will be happy to provide answers as and when they arise.

[dammit chloe]

Your talking about a membership fee which is completely different.

I would suggest being careful with open discussion. Possibly even delete this. Conversations within the LCAG forums should stay within the LCAG forums until the timing is right.

[dammit chloe]

Hi,
Maybe you can't answer this LCAG issue but I was asked to stump up £100 for this on a 'no win no fee' basis (although 100 is a fee?!?...)
A solicitor usually takes this on if they stand to make some windfall if successful so can you at least tell us what that is in this case? It mentions 'tax' paid or potentially saved - would there be some cut of that?

Seriously? It's clearly a £100 for full membership, nothing to do with any action being taken. No, details can't be shared outside the group for good reason. For most people caught up in this £100 is the least of their worries and LCAG is doing really good work.

[Vincenth1]

LCAG

Your talking about a membership fee which is completely different and separate from a no-win/no-fee claim action.

[QUODM]

no win no fee - where money?

Hi,
Maybe you can't answer this LCAG issue but I was asked to stump up £100 for this on a 'no win no fee' basis (although 100 is a fee?!?...)
A solicitor usually takes this on if they stand to make some windfall if successful so can you at least tell us what that is in this case? It mentions 'tax' paid or potentially saved - would there be some cut of that?

[Groundhogdays]

All happening. (and all I can say here am afraid...)

Want to find out more, join LCAG and become a full member:
http://www.hmrcloancharge.info

Well "we're all in this together", unlike the Tory government that brought this in.

I'm way past scared and just angry. Have been dealing with a family member's third breakdown in a year, while watching the LC tulipstorm approach. We know HMRC's game, we know the government, agencies and scheme providers think we're helpless patsys to take the fall. I disagree and I aim to misbehave (within the law) and at least make them sweat. Why not chip in to both LCAG and Big Group, or anyone else if it turns up the heat on Hector and gives government an additional Brexit hangover. Get your money's worth!

[DeadDOTAS]

All happening. (and all I can say here am afraid...)

Want to find out more, join LCAG and become a full member:
http://www.hmrcloancharge.info

[Groundhogdays]

Has there been any progress on this? Or any update to give us a glimmer of hope?

They'll be ready to go soon. Everyone, keep powder dry...personally, I had hoped they do something on a Friday. As a present, if you will, to HMRC and Behavioural Ingrates.

[ChimpMaster]

Has there been any progress on this? Or any update to give us a glimmer of hope?

[GreenMirror]

Hello Phil. This sounds very promising. I would be very keen to speak with you. How can I contact you to have a conversation about this legal action. I am an LCAG and WTT member so not sure how this ties in what LCAG and WTT are doing ?

Have you tried phil@dswtres.com ? Or sending Phil a PM?

[Shirip]

As people may be aware from the ridiculous news of me injuring myself....I was in London yesterday. I was meeting up with LCAG and a (very) well known QC. In fact it was the steps outside the Chambers that I managed to fall down which wasn't exactly the impact i was hoping to have. Nevertheless...

There is a legal challenge against the LC and its an excellent one in my opinion. More news will be out over the coming week. Long way to go but its a genuine light and one we should all be delighted to see.

More info over the coming weeks but it was an extremely positive meeting and has provided a real chance of success. Clearly there will be a lot of questions and so LCAG/myself/a n others will be happy to provide answers as and when they arise.

Hello Phil. This sounds very promising. I would be very keen to speak with you. How can I contact you to have a conversation about this legal action. I am an LCAG and WTT member so not sure how this ties in what LCAG and WTT are doing ?

[CapitalP]

Which QC is being used?

[QUODM]

you talking to me?...

I know yours is. That wasn't what I asked.

not sure if your question was to me but HMRC are out of time for a lot of 6y old investigations but the LC gives them massive access to info for 20 years that they didn't have before and it just seems to me that they'll look at the info (they otherwise wouldn't have obtained legally but scooped up now with the extraordinary LC2019 declarations) and open investigations on anything interesting.
Add a new 12 year scope for investigations and a lot of closed tax is now up for grabs.
That seems like a secondary negative aspect of the LC that noone seems to have discussed.

I think you would be mad to use a scheme these days given the HMRC's massive power grab and general lies to parliament (even though I still believe the rules should be the rules and if you want to bend them so be it) but I am interested in not reopening things that I think were legal at the time and I think are closed now. At some point even if I have to repay a lot of money Id like to end this and move on with my life, not get older and older investigations added.
Do my summer jobs as a kid get added to this as I'm sure I didn't pay the right tax there...

[malvolio]

The interest is in stopping retrospection. Alot of users thought they were using a genuine umbrella - so the scheme promoters will be targeted too. Which is what HMRC should be doing.

I know yours is. That wasn't what I asked.