Reply to: AccountingWeb article - your chance to comment

[cojak]

I have closed this comment owing to complaints.

(And yes, I am aware of the irony...)

[stonehenge]

Your attitude is a disgrace.

My family think it's shameful what I did; receiving payment in loans and not paying tax.

[luxCon]

I'm afraid your understanding is incorrect.

BG would prefer to avoid litigation and to come to a GROUP settlement that can apply across a broad range ......

Thanks for clarification. So we agree that there is nothing on BG's agenda to legally challenge 2019 in courts. Only service offered is to negotiate a settlement.

[webberg]

My understanding is BG does not offer nor believes in Legal action and fights. BG is all about individual settlements.
Yet I keep reading post encouraging members to join BG to do some sort of collaborative group action. This is somewhat misleading unless someone can clarify.

I'm afraid your understanding is incorrect.

BG would prefer to avoid litigation and to come to a GROUP settlement that can apply across a broad range of schemes, years and people. However, should it become necessary, we will, with the agreement of the membership, go for litigation.

BG does not deal in individual settlements. If members of BG want to go for an individual settlement, then there are a number of accounting and law firms who would be able to help, including WTT Consulting who administer BG.

There are some arrangements out there that are difficult to defend at any reasonable cost. Those who have used them are advised to go for individual settlement and to not become a BG member unless they wish to benefit from the benefits of the forum and its diverse views and resources.

[piebaps]

Apologies - I'm gone.

[BrilloPad]

Easy fellas - I think you're both batting for the same side here.

Who died and appointed you mod? If you want to argue, go over to general. And I will put you on ignore so I don't have to read your tedious ramblings....

[piebaps]

Easy fellas - I think you're both batting for the same side here.

[BrilloPad]

Apologies, maybe I was the only one who joined a scheme for the money.

I hold my hands up. I was a greedy tax dodger.

Your attitude is a disgrace. It was almost impossible to get NTRT up and running due to all the troll on CUK.

Most went in to get round IR35. And it was legal. HMRC ignored it and did nothing to close it down. And all their friends were doing it.

It is every taxpayers duty to minimize the amount they pay HMRC.

First they came for scheme users. Next they will come for everyone using personal service companies.

[stonehenge]

I have reported that post - hopefully to be deleted soon. And I hope your ban will be at least 6 months.

Feel free to post comments like that in general. Though these days I put all idiots on ignore.

Apologies, maybe I was the only one who joined a scheme for the money.

I hold my hands up. I was a greedy tax dodger.

[BrilloPad]

Yes, right.

Good luck trying to persuade anyone that scheme users (me included) were nothing but a bunch of greedy tax dodgers who are now, albeit belatedly, getting their just deserts.

I have reported that post - hopefully to be deleted soon. And I hope your ban will be at least 6 months.

Feel free to post comments like that in general. Though these days I put all idiots on ignore.

[stonehenge]

HMRCVictim:

Whilst some rich people may have set up bespoke EBT arrangements and ended up financially much better off by avoiding income tax and NICs, the vast majority of people who used these arrangements did not benefit financially at all.

...

So why did people use these off-the-shelf schemes if they weren't being greedy? Only one reason, simplicity. The schemes offered very simple working arrangements with no concerns about managing a personal Ltd co and worrying about bookkeeping, insurance, invoicing, etc. etc.

Yes, right.

Good luck trying to persuade anyone that scheme users (me included) were nothing but a bunch of greedy tax dodgers who are now, albeit belatedly, getting their just deserts.

[luxCon]

If having a say makes people feel better then great.

Legal action is the only way forward.

If you want to fight, join BG.

My understanding is BG does not offer nor believes in Legal action and fights. BG is all about individual settlements.
Yet I keep reading post encouraging members to join BG to do some sort of collaborative group action. This is somewhat misleading unless someone can clarify.

[BrilloPad]

If having a say makes people feel better then great.

However, it will achieve nothing. Best way is not to read that nonsense in the first place.

Legal action is the only way forward.

If you want to fight, join BG.

[Fred Bloggs]

Depressing?

Expected perhaps. As of this morning over 70 responses which for that website is a lot.

The opportunity of course is to have your say and try to balance the opinions.

Those from the accounting profession display a shocking lack of understanding and no empathy and I would not want to be a client of theirs.

We have pointed the article out to BG members who are relatively active there but more can be done.

My emphasis. That's why they're accountants. Numbers are right or wrong. Black or white.

[webberg]

Depressing?

Expected perhaps. As of this morning over 70 responses which for that website is a lot.

The opportunity of course is to have your say and try to balance the opinions.

Those from the accounting profession display a shocking lack of understanding and no empathy and I would not want to be a client of theirs.

We have pointed the article out to BG members who are relatively active there but more can be done.