Reply to: I wish she would go and clean behind the fridge instead

[Zero Liability]

I think she's genuine and she thought UKIP would make a difference while not being/becoming a racist party. Even though the leader seems a respectable character, she's probably been shocked by the amount of racists within the party; the stupidity is on the part of those racists and I'm afraid Mr Farage needs to address the issues very strongly to avoid guilt by association.

That's the problem with UKIP and most political parties. They have some very solid figures, who make a lot of sense. Myself, I like Godfrey Bloom (former UKIP), I think he's great, even if people can't appreciate his humour in the MSM, or refuse to do so because of the stick stuck up their proverbial/their need to fellate their masters by stirring controversy where there is none/the need to manufacture political figures palatable to Westminster tastes.

The Tories also have the likes of Daniel Hannan, who is very sound on many counts, but who is also a minority voice. Then, however, you get the political machine that is primarily geared at gaining votes, come what may, and the loopier sorts which this process tends to attract. I like UKIP better than I do the other parties, however I am resigned to the likelihood that they will either be unwilling or unable to reform the economy and the tax system crippling it, even if they do remove Britain from the EU.

Still, the Tories and the Lib-dems lack any credibility in my eyes, and although the Lib-dems are nominally for lower taxation on the middle class (not that I think soaking the 'rich' is acceptable, either), they face stiff opposition in so doing, and are by no means a party committed to this principle through and through. They will always have excuses for enacting no meaningful reforms and acting as though there's no alternative to the current configuration of the system conceivable, which is nonsense.

As for Labour... I wouldn't let my cat piss on them if they were on fire.

[Sysman]

Quite a clever and intricate conspiracy for someone to join UKIP at 17 and work her way to becoming the youth Party leader, addressing conferences and the like before leaving.

Then she was an ideal target for those wishing to discredit UKIP.

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

True but the folks behind the scenes in politics can be very manipulative.

[d000hg]

given the ridicolous amount of PC ism going on in this country most people have no idea what they can or cannot say about anyone who is not English

Given that referencing cultural stereotypes is now seen as racism, just about everyone is racist...

[Mich the Tester]

So if she is "stupid", are you suggesting that she joined the party a few years ago, and did not think they were racist. And now she thinks they ARE racist?
What's changed?
In my experience with UKIP the party is becoming more politically correct (as the more outspoken comments are censured e.g. Godfrey Bloom) as it grows into the mainsteam, so I don't see where she is coming from.

I think she's genuine and she thought UKIP would make a difference while not being/becoming a racist party. Even though the leader seems a respectable character, she's probably been shocked by the amount of racists within the party; the stupidity is on the part of those racists and I'm afraid Mr Farage needs to address the issues very strongly to avoid guilt by association.

[KentPhilip]

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

So if she is "stupid", are you suggesting that she joined the party a few years ago, and did not think they were racist. And now she thinks they ARE racist?
What's changed?
In my experience with UKIP the party is becoming more politically correct (as the more outspoken comments are censured e.g. Godfrey Bloom) as it grows into the mainsteam, so I don't see where she is coming from.

[Mich the Tester]

Yes it does and it is; but there are such things as conspiracies, especially where changing attitudes to the EU are concerned.

Quite a clever and intricate conspiracy for someone to join UKIP at 17 and work her way to becoming the youth Party leader, addressing conferences and the like before leaving.


Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

[OwlHoot]

No, that sounds like a conspiracy theory.

Yes it does and it is; but there are such things as conspiracies, especially where changing attitudes to the EU are concerned.

[hyperD]

It does sound like it doesn't it.
Airtime on a leftie outfit such as the Channel 4 news does raise suspicion.

Definite setup.

The MSM lead anti-UKIP rhetoric is now on max - it's gonna make great entertainment to see this in action!

[Mich the Tester]

Given this outcome, her whole involvement with UKIP and her later repudiation of it sounds like a pre-planned fit up with the aim of trying to discredit it.

It does sound like it doesn't it.
Airtime on a leftie outfit such as the Channel 4 news does raise suspicion.

No, that sounds like a conspiracy theory.

[KentPhilip]

Given this outcome, her whole involvement with UKIP and her later repudiation of it sounds like a pre-planned fit up with the aim of trying to discredit it.

It does sound like it doesn't it.
Airtime on a leftie outfit such as the Channel 4 news does raise suspicion.

[OwlHoot]

British Asian Ukip youth leader quits 'racist' and 'terrifying' Ukip - Telegraph

British Asian Ukip youth leader quits 'racist' and 'terrifying' Ukip
Sanya-Jeet Thandi, who defended her support of Ukip on Channel 4 News, says the party is now appealing to 'stupidity of ignorant anti-immigrant voters for electoral gain' ...

Given this outcome, her whole involvement with UKIP and her later repudiation of it sounds like a pre-planned fit up with the aim of trying to discredit it.

Obviously it makes for a more striking story to become involved with some group and support their aims, only to be disillusioned and supposedly spurned by them, than just to sit on the sidelines croaking "racist", "racist", ... like all the other bien pensant europhiliacs.

In any case, I bet there are loads of other immigrants, or descendents of recent immigrants, still happily supporting UKIP.

[oracleslave]

I follow a very simple rule. Don't say anything.....

Good advice for Gary Barlow. Whatever he said, whatever he did, he didn't mean it.

[vetran]

I follow a very simple rule. Don't say anything.....

Especially as its never the non-native who is upset but a bystander who takes offence on their behalf....

sad that you have to do this.

[eek]

given the ridicolous amount of PC ism going on in this country most people have no idea what they can or cannot say about anyone who is not English

I follow a very simple rule. Don't say anything.....

Especially as its never the non-native who is upset but a bystander who takes offence on their behalf....

[original PM]

given the ridicolous amount of PC ism going on in this country most people have no idea what they can or cannot say about anyone who is not English