Reply to: Britain to benefit from leaving the EU

[Brussels Slumdog]

First bit, yes. Governments seem to forget that the free movement policy was set up to enable free movement of workers, not free movement of scroungers, and they need to set up their policies to deal with that. In that respect perhaps I'm simply defending my own position as somebody who has never held his hands up to the state and wants to keep the freedom to travel to where there's work. The generosity of a country's welfare system is simply not a consideration for me when deciding where to live and work, because I'm determined not to use it. Perhaps it's just pride.

Second, yes, there are downsides, but I'm not convinced that the downsides are worse than the downside of having almost complete free movement of capital without allowing people the freedom to follow capital and work where they can find work.

Europe works very well for ITcontractors like me. I work where I can find the most interesting contract and I normally work for the local daily rate . Its most likely the Bobs that drive the rate down and not our fellow europeans. It must be a nightmare for the UK uneducated masses to have to compete with the whole of Europe.
However leaving the EU will not solve their problem as companies would rather relocate somewhere else than employ most of these loosers. About 25% of unemployed are completely unemployable I.e the untouchables.

[mos]

Dupek?

yours too. (I am saddened at the 'enrichment' of your culture, DA)

[mos]

He has a head, I thought he was talking out of the other end.

Your clever remark stink of desperation.

[DodgyAgent]

He has a head, I thought he was talking out of the other end.

Dupek?

[vetran]

With a chip on the shoulder that big surprised mos can find his head in the morning.

And what is this oh so hard working Polish contractor doing spending so much time on CUK?

He has a head, I thought he was talking out of the other end.

[mos]

It all started when Nazi troops dressed as Polish soldiers 'invaded' Germany, so blame Germany and Russia for agreeing to annex Poland between them

We call it systematic genocide.

We were talking about whining of UKiPpers and who benefited from the Marshal plan.

[Mich the Tester]

And what is this oh so hard working Polish contractor doing spending so much time on CUK?

Same thing as the rest of us profiteering barstewards!

[Mich the Tester]

Whom exactly are you calling the scroungers !? Stop projecting your bad attitude on honest, hard working people.

Again, you chose target of your hate and prejudice because its easy: people who are honest, hardworking and are keeping head down. Too surprised to even start thinking about fending off this smear campaign. If Western civilisation will die, here you have why.

I think you've misunderstood what I'm saying.

[xoggoth]

With a chip on the shoulder that big surprised mos can find his head in the morning.

And what is this oh so hard working Polish contractor doing spending so much time on CUK?

[mos]

Why does US aid to Britain and Poland's fate in the war have any relevance whatever to free migration in the EU? What happened to Poland was terrible but maybe you should be blaming the Germans and Russians for that. After a long debilitating war the UK had no further capacity to oppose Russian expansion and why would it be our duty anyway?

We were talking about Marshall Plan, and the origin of the Myth that Britain did not get it.

[mos]

First bit, yes. Governments seem to forget that the free movement policy was set up to enable free movement of workers, not free movement of scroungers, and they need to set up their policies to deal with that.

Whom exactly are you calling the scroungers !? Stop projecting your bad attitude on honest, hard working people.

Again, you chose target of your hate and prejudice because its easy: people who are honest, hardworking and are keeping head down. Too surprised to even start thinking about fending off this smear campaign. If Western civilisation will die, here you have why.

[sasguru]

In my opinion Britain also made a very large mistake when it didn't develop the consumer markets of its colonies. By neglecting education (e.g. not creating a single decent further education institution during its tenure in India) , Britain ensured there was no middle class to sell its goods to.
Of course the reasoning behind that was that an educated populace would struggle for independence but it was obvious this would happen anyway.

[xoggoth]

Poland was affected by war to the greatest degree: 6 million Poles murdered or killed (elites were especially targeted), 50% of infrastructure, especially industrial. And after all that ....

Why does US aid to Britain and Poland's fate in the war have any relevance whatever to free migration in the EU? What happened to Poland was terrible but maybe you should be blaming the Germans and Russians for that. After a long debilitating war the UK had no further capacity to oppose Russian expansion and why would it be our duty anyway?

[MicrosoftBob]

Please read BBC. Why someone is spreading this misinformation? interesting ...
BBC - History - British History in depth: The Wasting of Britain's Marshall Aid

Poland was affected by war to the greatest degree: 6 million Poles murdered or killed (elites were especially targeted), 50% of infrastructure, especially industrial. And after all that ....

It all started when Nazi troops dressed as Polish soldiers 'invaded' Germany, so blame Germany and Russia for agreeing to annex Poland between them

[Mich the Tester]

Please read BBC. Why someone is spreading this misinformation? interesting ...
BBC - History - British History in depth: The Wasting of Britain's Marshall Aid

The truth is that the post-war Labour Government, advised by its resident economic pundits, freely chose not to make industrial modernisation the central theme in her use of Marshall Aid.

Oh then I stand corrected and if you've found a way to blame the Labour party for wasting money then I congratulate you.