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[NickFitz]

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/heartbleed_explanation.png

I'm trying to work out if Isabel wants the pages to not be too long, or the snakes

[SimonMac]

[eek]

Dont forget to call your mother, and advise her to change her maiden name

[OwlHoot]

I have to admit that in over 30 years of computing, in finance, auto, software development, government, retail, etc. I have never, ever seen anyone use a Mac officially for software development (I've seen contractors bring them in but only for their own use and never for the companies.) Then again I work on a reliable system

Me neither

ISTR someone brought one into a small Search Engine optimisation clientco I was with about 10 years ago, and left it in the canteen for us to try out.

We all spent a minute or two on the thing, struggling with its single-button mouse amid much hilarity. But after that it was totally ignored, and soon disappeared with no further comment.

(Makes us sound like those chimps at the start of 2001 a Space Odyssey, confronting the monolith - But seriously, I don't know what it is about Macs that everyone raves about, especially as their users are locked into proprietary hardware and software.)

[scooterscot]

Then again I work on a reliable system

If you want a reliable Windows PC, maybe you should get a Mac.

That’s the conclusion of a new report released today by Soluto, which crunched the data from its cloud-based PC monitoring and management software to come up with a list of the 10 most reliable portable PCs you can buy today.

The most reliable Windows PC you can buy today, according to Soluto’s report, doesn’t come from one of the leading hardware OEMs. Instead, it’s built by Microsoft’s archrival Apple. (You'll have to use Apple's Boot Camp utility and buy your own Windows license to transform the Mac into a Windows PC.)

The report also provides a partial answer to the age-old question of whether you should use a vendor’s OEM image of Windows or wipe it and perform a clean installation.

Soluto’s database includes data gathered from millions of machines running Windows. For this study, the company chose a sample of data gathered in the first three months of 2013 from 150,000 portable PCs. They filtered the dataset so it includes only models available for purchase today, running Windows 7 or Windows 8.

[darmstadt]

Is that why so many software developers use them?

I have to admit that in over 30 years of computing, in finance, auto, software development, government, retail, etc. I have never, ever seen anyone use a Mac officially for software development (I've seen contractors bring them in but only for their own use and never for the companies.) Then again I work on a reliable system

[scooterscot]

WHS

actually ...



but not, in my case, in the Real World

Here's me using my mac in the real world to understand the effects of parameter change on various components.

But is rather lame stuff. It becomes much more impressive when I consider introducing stresses such as heat across the component cross section. For that I use COMSOL Multiphysics.

For real world 'stuff' people use Mac, for everything else there's windaz.

[MyUserName]

Aren't you in banking. Outside that niche is common to see them as they are brilliant for hosting virtual machines, flicking between VS and intellij is simplicity itself...

Yes, for the past few years. But I have worked in telecoms, security, billing, graphics and defence. I have only ever seen a Mac being used by developers in the billing company because their software was ancient.

Are Macs honestly used by developers? I had no idea.

Although now I am thinking about it a CTO of a previous finance company used a Mac. He would SSH to the Linux boxes and code that way when he needed to.

[cojak]

Really? In my experience you can spot the contractor consultants a mile off because they're always the ones, having bought their own kit, walking about with a macbook pro.
It seems almost ubiquitous these days for anyone presenting a technical presentation/demo to be running IDEA on a mbp. In the Java circles I find myself in at least.

[cojak]

Funnily enough, I only ever see developers using anything other than Macs when I'm at a client who is still living with the misery of developing for Microsoft platforms. Everywhere else, which is most places outside the narrow confines of the City, the vast majority use Macs - I even know many Linux types who run it on a Mac just for the hardware build quality.

hardware build quaility.....mmmmm...

[OwlHoot]

What a strange alternate universe you must live in.

We have a Mac here; it gets used for testing with Safari, not for any other reason. And the anti-Windows people all use Linux on a PC. I've certainly seen Mac Book Pros being used in the business world, but they always run Windows.

WHS

actually ...

I've certainly seen Mac Book Pros being used in the business world snazzy Hollywood films ...

but not, in my case, in the Real World

[NickFitz]

What a strange alternate universe you must live in.

We have a Mac here; it gets used for testing with Safari, not for any other reason. And the anti-Windows people all use Linux on a PC. I've certainly seen Mac Book Pros being used in the business world, but they always run Windows.

But from over here, it's your universe that's alternate and strange

[VectraMan]

Funnily enough, I only ever see developers using anything other than Macs when I'm at a client who is still living with the misery of developing for Microsoft platforms. Everywhere else, which is most places outside the narrow confines of the City, the vast majority use Macs - I even know many Linux types who run it on a Mac just for the hardware build quality.

What a strange alternate universe you must live in.

We have a Mac here; it gets used for testing with Safari, not for any other reason. And the anti-Windows people all use Linux on a PC. I've certainly seen Mac Book Pros being used in the business world, but they always run Windows.

[SpontaneousOrder]

I have not seen a software developer using an apple mac for about 15 years. Even then they were only used because of bizarre legacy GUI file formats.

Really? In my experience you can spot the contractor consultants a mile off because they're always the ones, having bought their own kit, walking about with a macbook pro.
It seems almost ubiquitous these days for anyone presenting a technical presentation/demo to be running IDEA on a mbp. In the Java circles I find myself in at least.

[NickFitz]

I have not seen a software developer using an apple mac for about 15 years. Even then they were only used because of bizarre legacy GUI file formats.

Funnily enough, I only ever see developers using anything other than Macs when I'm at a client who is still living with the misery of developing for Microsoft platforms. Everywhere else, which is most places outside the narrow confines of the City, the vast majority use Macs - I even know many Linux types who run it on a Mac just for the hardware build quality.