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Originally posted by northernladuk View Post+1 to this. You are company providing services to a client, not a permie. If you don't want to provide services to them because it is further away you walk. If you want to carry on you suck it up and carry on.
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Originally posted by northernladuk View Post+1 to this. You are company providing services to a client, not a permie. If you don't want to provide services to them because it is further away you walk. If you want to carry on you suck it up and carry on.
If its within Central London then your contract covered it, if its outside then why not ask for more if you can? If they mentioned the move before the hire then it would seem a little rude to turn round and say its too far now.
If you don't have to bend over and you are big enough to take the consequences if they refuse then its just business.
as jmo & I said ask to work from home part of the week especially if there is a culture of doing so. That is the easiest thing for your client manager to approve as it has no budget impact, however make sure you make your deliverables very visible and then deliver!
They sound unlikely to say no outright if you are in a situation they changed without consulting you. They might balk but it might be worth a try.
and yes I couldn't spell cojones sorry.
I'm a permie who lives 5 miles from work. I work from home >90% of the time because I negotiated hard at a time when we were laying off 15-20% of the workforce.
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostOk that's not so bad. Being the only contractor with 3.5 years in I would be extremely cautious of IR35 and be extremely anal about trying to stay out. From what you have said it looks like you are part and parcel of the organisation, particularly with you wanting some compensation for the move.
Be extra vigilant with your IR35 status. This could be an opportunity to gather some evidence to prove you are not.
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Originally posted by RickRow View PostThere is a contract expirey, with the possibility of an extension.
Be extra vigilant with your IR35 status. This could be an opportunity to gather some evidence to prove you are not.
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Well if it is indefinite then you must be inside IR35 so have an argument for permie conditions so ask them for the travel time IMO.
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Originally posted by jmo21 View PostYou can demand whatever you like. Whether you get it or not is another thing.
Your actual contract and how valued you are will decide how likely they would be to accommodate your request.
If you are a jobbing contractor, doing noddy business CRUD apps (like me!) you'll likely get told where to go.
If you have a niche, expensive skill, they might be quite happy and understanding to sort something out.
If the first, asking for a rate rise may not work, but this might be a really good time to ask to work from home 2 days a week.
Originally posted by DirtyDog View PostWhat does your contract say about location? What does your contract say about expenses?
Mine says that I have a normal office, and they will pay expenses for travel to any other office location. I normally include my time in that as well, but that's things like travelling to London rather than Manchester; flying to Toronto for meetings etc.
For an extra 30 minutes, I'm not sure I'd be that fussed, to be honest.
30 minutes isn't a great deal, but it will add up on a weekly basis. And it's my time I'm not invoicing for.
Thanks for the reply
Originally posted by vetran View PostHow long left on contract? - is it worth the fight?
was this mooted before you started?
can you use it to get a couple of days working at home (that affects no ones budget).
How bad do they need you? - how much leverage do you have?
how big are your cahunnas?
and the important questions:
Do you like films about Gladiators?
Can you Bleed a radiator?
Have you ever licked the chutney spoon and put it back?
I have good leverage, I'm the sole developer on a project they are urgent to complete.
Cahunnas > Large
I enjoy films about Gladiators
I can bleed a radiator, with a good set of instructions
Never lick a spoon if putting it back.
Thanks for the reply.
Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Postif they had moved closer, would you have stormed in and demanded a rate reduction ?
just suck it up big boy
Originally posted by tarbera View Postyou would be given your notice, and if you asked it would be told No way
Think I'll look at requesting a work from home arrangement. Perhaps for a couple days a week.
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Originally posted by RickRow View PostCurrently based in London and client has decided to move office. My daily journey to and from the workplace now takes me an extra 30 minutes and costs a negligible amount more in travel expenses.
Fairly new to contracting so I'm looking for a little advice this. Should I demand my additional travel time to be covered in my daily rate?
Thanks
That sounds appalling, but some employers take the P out of contractors. I know one contractor who was not even offered a company car!
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Originally posted by northernladuk View Post+1 to this. You are company providing services to a client, not a permie. If you don't want to provide services to them because it is further away you walk. If you want to carry on you suck it up and carry on.
Although I thought NLUK would ask 'are you sure you're really cut out to be a contractor?'
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Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Postif they had moved closer, would you have stormed in and demanded a rate reduction ?
just suck it up big boy
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