Reply to: Agency upset that no-one wants his jobs

[SueEllen]

I tried phoning the job centre to tell them I had a job. They said "why are you phoning us then?"

"Computer says Noooo"

[vetran]

I mean the client or recruitment agent didn't even bother advertising the jobs abroad they were so disorganised.....

This is so true!

[doodab]

It may be that the client or the agency are responsible for the late notice but the Job centre (that are free) weren't asked by the customer, speaks volumes.

I tried phoning the job centre to tell them I had a job. They said "why are you phoning us then?"

[SueEllen]

Quite possibly but if I had a business on my doorstep that annually had 50 or so jobs coming up for my unemployed people I think I would know their phone number!

It may be that the client or the agency are responsible for the late notice but the Job centre (that are free) weren't asked by the customer, speaks volumes.

Yeah but you and me are efficient and logical people. If we weren't we would work for the job centre, in HR or as a pimp for minimum wage jobs.

I mean the client or recruitment agent didn't even bother advertising the jobs abroad they were so disorganised.....

[vetran]

JSA has a computer system for finding jobs - here They've had it for years.

If he didn't inform the Job Centre in enough time - and four hours is really not enough - then they couldn't upload the jobs in time.

Due to Nu Liebour government cuts they got rid of staff who actually did anything worthwhile and just have box tickers so if it's not on the computer system then...

I saw jobs from Argos and a few other shops recruiting for Christmas jobs at the beginning of August.

In short the guy and the customer are morons.

Quite possibly but if I had a business on my doorstep that annually had 50 or so jobs coming up for my unemployed people I think I would know their phone number!

It may be that the client or the agency are responsible for the late notice but the Job centre (that are free) weren't asked by the customer, speaks volumes.

[SueEllen]

I suspect that he was asked at 12:30 by the customer, put it to everything he could get his hands on including relatives and mates down the Pub. He says he got 10 by himself.

The Job centre didn't turn up anything, now whether they tried is not mentioned.

I assume the company has tried the job centre but were willing to pay extra to use an agent. This does tend to say quite a lot about the efficiency of the Job centre.

JSA has a computer system for finding jobs - here They've had it for years.

If he didn't inform the Job Centre in enough time - and four hours is really not enough - then they couldn't upload the jobs in time.

Due to Nu Liebour government cuts they got rid of staff who actually did anything worthwhile and just have box tickers so if it's not on the computer system then...

I saw jobs from Argos and a few other shops recruiting for Christmas jobs at the beginning of August.

In short the guy and the customer are morons.

[vetran]

That's a good contract that. 50 workers. His margin has to be at least a quid an hour so that's £2k per week.

Fookin lazy he just put an ad at the Jobcentre though and then blame then.

I suspect that he was asked at 12:30 by the customer, put it to everything he could get his hands on including relatives and mates down the Pub. He says he got 10 by himself.

The Job centre didn't turn up anything, now whether they tried is not mentioned.

I assume the company has tried the job centre but were willing to pay extra to use an agent. This does tend to say quite a lot about the efficiency of the Job centre.

yes £2k a week minus holidays, sick pay & Employers NI. Its probably more like £2 an hour.

not defending his behaviour, he sounds like a right moron.

[amcdonald]

Or, all the labourers literally starved to death from not having money to spend on food.

Or perhaps Americans have discovered this new fangled internet in a box

[MarillionFan]

That's a good contract that. 50 workers. His margin has to be at least a quid an hour so that's £2k per week.

Fookin lazy he just put an ad at the Jobcentre though and then blame then.

[d000hg]

Or, all the labourers literally starved to death from not having money to spend on food.

[NickFitz]

In countries without benefits, there would be a queue of people waiting for work... happens in America where each morning agencies are crowded with labourers hoping for a day's work, etc.

Really? Let's see; Baltimore is, I believe, a city with a pretty high level of unemployment. A big temping agency there is called "Labor Ready" ("Dependable Temporary Labour. Call Today! 1-800-24-LABOR"). Let's have a look at their office on Annapolis:

Hmm, that's odd; where are they all? Let's try Reiserstown:

No, not there either. How about Eastern?

This seems very odd. Maybe they've all gone to the Erdman office:

No, not there either, and I can't see their sign

Oh hang on:

They must have been so busy they had to move to larger premises with more free parking space to accommodate all the people queuing up for tulip minimum wage temp jobs. Yes, that'll be it

[d000hg]

And if you can't get work because there's none to be had then you're screwed. It's very easy to be dumped in a skip as economically unviable in the US. It also allows employers to pay as little as possible while exploiting the absolute lack of job security to screw the very last shred of work out of someone. Rampant capitalism at its worst with no effective safety net.

Minimum wage exists to try and combat this, but of course when there are lots of illegals looking for cash in hand I imagine this doesn't get met anyway.

Not defending the US system in my previous post - it's the other side of the coin. You want a benefits system where people are queuing to get work as if they will starve without it, but are then provided for if they cannot get work.

[vetran]

And if you can't get work because there's none to be had then you're screwed. It's very easy to be dumped in a skip as economically unviable in the US. It also allows employers to pay as little as possible while exploiting the absolute lack of job security to screw the very last shred of work out of someone. Rampant capitalism at its worst with no effective safety net.

indeed the other side of the coin.

I'm all for workfare, but benefit refusal is scary.

[craig1]

In countries without benefits, there would be a queue of people waiting for work... happens in America where each morning agencies are crowded with labourers hoping for a day's work, etc.

And if you can't get work because there's none to be had then you're screwed. It's very easy to be dumped in a skip as economically unviable in the US. It also allows employers to pay as little as possible while exploiting the absolute lack of job security to screw the very last shred of work out of someone. Rampant capitalism at its worst with no effective safety net.

[d000hg]

In countries without benefits, there would be a queue of people waiting for work... happens in America where each morning agencies are crowded with labourers hoping for a day's work, etc.