Reply to: Agile is Tulip!

[doodab]

It's generally good to hire as many non-developers as possible, you definitely don't want more than 10% of the team actually doing any tangible work. So you probably want a business architect, business analyst, data architect, enterprise architect for each couple of developers on the project, as well as a half-dozen testers and a test manager. Possibly you'll want a test architect as well.

POTD.

I guarantee somebody somewhere is now thinking "we haven't got a test architect, that must be why it's all going wrong"

[d000hg]

You need a business architect involved at every scrum, that understands everything end to end , because people tend to lose the big picture in agile.

It's generally good to hire as many non-developers as possible, you definitely don't want more than 10% of the team actually doing any tangible work. So you probably want a business architect, business analyst, data architect, enterprise architect for each couple of developers on the project, as well as a half-dozen testers and a test manager. Possibly you'll want a test architect as well.

[Lockhouse]

You need a business architect involved at every scrum, that understands everything end to end , because people tend to lose the big picture in agile.

Conveying the big picture is the Product Owner's job in Scrum (Or business visionary in DSDM etc). All of these methodologies rely on communication - and if communication is bad it doesn't matter what methodology you're using, you're going to fail.

[aussielong]

You need a business architect involved at every scrum, that understands everything end to end , because people tend to lose the big picture in agile.

[Freamon]

What's the difference between a methodologist and a terrorist?

Terrorists sometimes succeed.

A methodologist studies methods. A terrorist gets a prince 2 black belt scrum master badge and attacks UK infrastructure from the inside.

No, the difference is that you can negotiate with a terrorist.

[SussexSeagull]

Somewhere along the line methodology stopped being the servant of delivery and delivery became the servant of methodology.

As said previously Agile done properly has much merit but it is next to never done properly and tends to be a mechanism to stop doers doing, keep people with snazzy job titles in work and avoid anything resembling documentation,

The rise of Agile is linked into the increasing prejudice against introverts, but that is another conversation.

[d000hg]

I work as a scrum master and Agile coach. I'm currently implementing Scrum at a bank in The City.

In my experience most people are using "Agile but...." or "Scrum but....", very few people are using it as prescribed. I'm not saying Agile always works but implemented correctly and with the right people it's the best way I've found way of managing development teams and their work.

not seen many projects then have you

CC did you not even read what Lockhouse wrote? Your reply is as meaningless as telling me "you're wrong" when I tell you "I play darts better with my left hand than my right". It's his personal empirical finding that when HE manages teams, they work better using Agile.

[Lockhouse]

not seen many projects then have you

Very droll.

[amcdonald]

Does someone get to wear a strapon?

So who gets to be Onan the Barbarian ?

[Mich the Tester]

The analyst?

[doodab]

Does someone get to wear a strapon?

The analyst?

[eek]

I work as a scrum master and Agile coach. I'm currently implementing Scrum at a bank in The City.

In my experience most people are using "Agile but...." or "Scrum but....", very few people are using it as prescribed. I'm not saying Agile always works but implemented correctly and with the right people it's the best way I've found way of managing development teams and their work.

I think I've found the flaw in your argument......

[CoolCat]

I work as a scrum master and Agile coach. I'm currently implementing Scrum at a bank in The City.

In my experience most people are using "Agile but...." or "Scrum but....", very few people are using it as prescribed. I'm not saying Agile always works but implemented correctly and with the right people it's the best way I've found way of managing development teams and their work.

not seen many projects then have you

[Mich the Tester]

I work as a scrum master and Agile coach. I'm currently implementing Scrum at a bank in The City.

In my experience most people are using "Agile but...." or "Scrum but....", very few people are using it as prescribed. I'm not saying Agile always works but implemented correctly and with the right people it's the best way I've found way of managing development teams and their work.

Isn't that the point of agile ideas? Do what works to build working software/value?

[Lockhouse]

I work as a scrum master and Agile coach. I'm currently implementing Scrum at a bank in The City.

In my experience most people are using "Agile but...." or "Scrum but....", very few people are using it as prescribed. I'm not saying Agile always works but implemented correctly and with the right people it's the best way I've found way of managing development teams and their work.