Reply to: House buying at an auction

[eek]

Bringing this up from the cellar as TheFaQQer 's church is up for sale again

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properti...hannel=RES_BUY

BTW the person who bought it after you lost £70,000 when they sold it in 2019...

[Freelancer Financials]

I have always wondered who owns the freehold on German houses? Private individuals? Government?

Local Government, Private and Public corporations and individuals.

[BrilloPad]

German Efficiency!

Is it true that most Germans just rent? Not that interested in owning the Freehold?

I have always wondered who owns the freehold on German houses? Private individuals? Government?

[Ondine]

well, in Germany it's not really risky buying a house at an public auction. You get all important information about the condition of the house and a fair price. You can save up to 50% of the market-value of the house in case that noone else was bidding. In the second round you can even save more than 50%.

German Efficiency!

Is it true that most Germans just rent? Not that interested in owning the Freehold?

[yannek]

well, in Germany it's not really risky buying a house at an public auction. You get all important information about the condition of the house and a fair price. You can save up to 50% of the market-value of the house in case that noone else was bidding. In the second round you can even save more than 50%.

[Ondine]

Only a fool would do otherwise

(Fingers crossed for the Halifax to come up with the money)

One of my friends purchased a church at an auction 2 years ago in Leicester for £99,000. It was perfect for conversion. In the end she had to buy it cash as the lender didn't lend. The lender HSBC said that the Church was too old and big for it to be converted into a residential property. Basically, its down to the lender's valuers comments.

She spent at least £125,000 doing it up. She sold it a couple of months ago to a retired artist for £399,000 who is looking to use it as an art gallery.

It's very difficult to get a mortgage for a property at an auction, let alone a Church! I hope you have a contingency plan in case you cant get the mortgage.

Good luck! It sounds like a good project!

[Old Hack]

Christianity is simply adjusting to the number of people who are actually Christians, rather than a state religion where everyone goes to church as a matter of course. When you think how every tiny village used to have a chapel or church, clearly that is overkill - you don't see mosques closing because there are hardly any of them in comparison!

No, Christianity is adjusting to having fewer followers, as will Islam as enlightenment happens. More and more people are leaving religion, including Muslims, as they become more and more enlightened and educated.

It was easier forcing religion on people, but now they have a choice, the numbers are dropping. Islam is only as large as it is in places like Pakistan, Indonesia and Afghanistan, as the options are less than savoury; denounce Mohammed in Lahore and you're dead, denounce him in Bristol and life goes on. What you're finding is that without forced religion, people realise they can make their own minds up, and the numbers drop. It's proven 2nd and 3rd generation muslims are dropping their faith. That's all that has been happening with Christianity.

[TheFaQQer]

What's on the stained glass windows? And how old are they?

Not sure. One of them is dedicated to a former vicar who was murdered in the vicarage - in 1868 they voted to have a new window dedicated to him, so I guess that it's not too much after that. His is one of the graves which comes with the property:

[mudskipper]

What's on the stained glass windows? And how old are they?

[OwlHoot]

Have promised the children that although they will have to share a bedroom to start with, they will get a room with en-suite each once it's completed. ...

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No seriously, mega kudos. The tower alone looks big enough for three or four floors of rooms with a spiral metal staircase. Outstanding

[mudskipper]

It'll be amazing. You should do a blog.


When son #1 was about 4, he went to church with his granny.

"Granny, does God live in your church?"

"Well yes," says granny.

"Oh. I thought so - I saw his cooker out the back."

[d000hg]

What about a trained monkey?

[vetran]

Yep.

We still haven't worked out how to change the lightbulbs yet, either. Bloody big long ladders, it seems.

LED bulbs/strips or you can get lights on ropes that winch down.

stage lighting from the floor?

of course as you have the arches with stud walls I would be tempted to put the light fittings in the walls pointing into the nave and have rear access. You could back light some recovered stained glass in the walls?

[TheFaQQer]

Will be a nightmare to dust though.

Yep.

We still haven't worked out how to change the lightbulbs yet, either. Bloody big long ladders, it seems.

[TheFaQQer]

I'm jealous too, and that price is amazing.

FAQ, is the plan to live there or make money?

Family home. We've looked at various places for a while, but this was too good to miss - ready to move into but with lots of potential. Have promised the children that although they will have to share a bedroom to start with, they will get a room with en-suite each once it's completed.

All the structural work is complete, everything from here is internal work - still need to build a few walls, the nave floor, the staircases up into the tower though.