Reply to: Economist on the politics of UK young people

[doodab]

The issue is that no one wants to annoy, and therefore lose, the grey vote since it's very powerful.

And no one gives a tulip about annoying students, which is ironic because it's only by educating people to a high standard we're going to build the strong economy we need to pay all the other bills.

Personally I don't want a state pension, I'd much rather my son got a decent education without being knee deep in debt at the end of it.

[DodgyAgent]

He is even more hamstrung by the rapidly aging population which eats up the greatest proportion of benefits and the NHS.

The problem for this blame-culture era is that it's no-one's fault. The country needs prosperity and more people putting into the coffers to make up the shortfall.

That's the problem for the Government (of any persuasion) and it's a head-spinning vote-loser whichever way you look at it.

Logans run had the answer:

t's 2274 and on the surface, it all seems to be an idyllic society. Living in a city within an enclosed dome, there is little or no work for humans to perform and inhabitants are free to pursue all of the pleasures of life. There is one catch however: your life is limited and when you reach 30, it is terminated in a quasi-religious ceremony known as Carousel. Some, known as runners, do try to escape their fate when the time comes and it's the job of Sandmen to track them down and kill them. Logan is such a man and with several years before his own termination date, thinks nothing of the job he does. Soon after meeting a young woman, Jessica-6, he is ordered to become a runner himself and infiltrate a community outside the dome known as Sanctuary and to destroy it. Pursued by his friend Francis, also a Sandman, Logan and Jessica find their way to the outside. There they discover a beautiful, virtually uninhabited world. Logan realizes that he must return to the dome to tell them what ...

[DimPrawn]

Its not just the Grey vote that worries them IMHO.

Gay

[hyperD]

Its not just the Grey vote that worries them IMHO.

It's the Green as well!

[vetran]

whs

Its not just the Grey vote that worries them IMHO.

[Mich the Tester]

The issue is that no one wants to annoy, and therefore lose, the grey vote since it's very powerful.

whs

[vetran]

The issue is that no one wants to annoy, and therefore lose, the grey vote since it's very powerful.

or the Benefit clients

or the home owners

or the big businesses (they supply directorships).

so basically they need to grow a pair and get on with it.

[Pondlife]

the ageing population is healthier longer than ever before, they can work and put in for longer.

The work is far less physical than before so 70 year olds can still provide useful work.

Decision & experience based work is more common so older workers are more useful. e.g. B&Q grey workforce.

Automation has removed the need for many manual / repetitive jobs so many jobs in the civil service could be culled.

The challenge is making everyone work

The issue is that no one wants to annoy, and therefore lose, the grey vote since it's very powerful.

[vetran]

the ageing population is healthier longer than ever before, they can work and put in for longer.

The work is far less physical than before so 70 year olds can still provide useful work.

Decision & experience based work is more common so older workers are more useful. e.g. B&Q grey workforce.

Automation has removed the need for many manual / repetitive jobs so many jobs in the civil service could be culled.

The challenge is making everyone work

[cojak]

He is even more hamstrung by the rapidly aging population which eats up the greatest proportion of benefits and the NHS.

The problem for this blame-culture era is that it's no-one's fault. The country needs prosperity and more people putting into the coffers to make up the shortfall.

That's the problem for the Government (of any persuasion) and it's a head-spinning vote-loser whichever way you look at it.

[vetran]

I wonder how much he's hamstrung by the Libdems.

he is hamstrung by history, he needs to trim costs (benefits, public sector workers, historic debts) not sure the Lib dems are the problem.

none of that is going to be popular. The few changes he has made on Benefits have been painted as cruel cuts.

[Mich the Tester]

I think he is, I also admire him for sticking to his guns and not listening Ed "Borrow more" Balls

I wonder how much he's hamstrung by the Libdems.

[DodgyAgent]

If only the government spent within those 'limited funds' instead of building up more and more debt. I suppose Mr Osborne's doing his best.

I think he is, I also admire him for sticking to his guns and not listening Ed "Borrow more" Balls

[Mich the Tester]

The government has limited funds. The debate is not about "saddling them with debt" but about how further education should befunded.

If only the government spent within those 'limited funds' instead of building up more and more debt. I suppose Mr Osborne's doing his best.

[DodgyAgent]

Interesting and a sign of hope, but hardly surprising given the debts with which young people have been saddled by past governments;




British politics and the young: The strange rebirth of liberal England | The Economist

The government has limited funds. The debate is not about "saddling them with debt" but about how further education should befunded.