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Previously on "Obligatory USA Election Thread"

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  • NickFitz
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    And we're done.





    Congratulations
    to

    President
    Obama

    on his
    second term


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  • NickFitz
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    Well, the NY Times "512 Paths" thingy is throwing an nginx 500 error

    EDIT: ah, it's back. Sometimes…

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by ZARDOZ View Post
    Now you are moving on from economics.
    You think having to deal with global challenges has no effect on economics?

    Clinton had massive peace dividend - for 8 years, with low price of oil to boot.

    Originally posted by ZARDOZ View Post
    Republicans have on average a worse ecomonic record, that I'm afraid is an economic fact.
    So what you saying is that in cases when Democrats (or Labour) bankrupt the country and next administration takes over (which would have to be Republicans (Cons) in two party states like USA and UK) then suddenly it's all the other party's fault?

    Things are pretty bad right now in UK but is it due to Conservative policies in the last 12 years or perhaps Liebor's?

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  • ZARDOZ
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Did it occur to you that different presidents had different challenges? Ronald Reagan had to deal with threat of USSR and he successfully solved that problem without WW3.

    On the contrary Kennedy nearly started one by placing nukes in Turkey which forced USSR to deploy them in Cuba.
    Now you are moving on from economics. Of course they faced different challenges, FDR was president during the worst war we have had, still didn't do too bad ecomnomically during his tenure.

    Republicans have on average a worse ecomonic record, that I'm afraid is an economic fact. Please leave normative statements out of it.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by ZARDOZ View Post
    You can see it's usually reduced under democrats. Regan Bush and Bush let it spiral out of control.
    Did it occur to you that different presidents had different challenges? Ronald Reagan had to deal with threat of USSR and he successfully solved that problem without WW3.

    On the contrary Kennedy nearly started one by placing nukes in Turkey which forced USSR to deploy them in Cuba.

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  • ZARDOZ
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    I don't see debt figures in your stats - conviniently ignored perhaps?


    Not ignored at all, I just thought the other figures were more compelling but as above you can see it's usually reduced under Democrats. Regan Bush and Bush let it spiral out of control.


    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Stock market return 992% under democrats, FFS give me a fooking break!
    Why not? Heard of compound interest? (11% a year for 22 years)
    Last edited by ZARDOZ; 7 November 2012, 01:46.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by ZARDOZ View Post
    You'd have it that the Repulicans are the most unlucky party in history of US politics while the Democrats were the most flukey.
    I don't see debt figures in your stats - conviniently ignored perhaps?

    "Growth" through debt like it happened under Bliar and Clinton is self-defeating - next administration will have to deal with the fallout and in a two party state like UK or USA that easily means same party can deal with tulip all the time because one party can be populist ****s who just want to be elected.

    Stock market return 992% under democrats, FFS give me a fooking break!

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  • ZARDOZ
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Some of the tough policies take time to give results so often those who got elected AFTER those who enacted those policies take the credit - just like Bliar and Brown took credit for Major's work.
    That classic CUK argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny. From a factual persepctive the party in power cannot take credit for success BUT blame all failure during their tenure (which could be a period of 8 years) on others. You'd have it that the Repulicans are the most unlucky party in history of US politics while the Democrats were the most flukey. I don't buy that nor do many historians.
    Last edited by ZARDOZ; 7 November 2012, 01:34.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by ZARDOZ View Post
    Some of the tough policies take time to give results so often those who got elected AFTER those who enacted those policies take the credit - just like Bliar and Brown took credit for Major's work.

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  • ZARDOZ
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    Last edited by ZARDOZ; 7 November 2012, 01:20.

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  • Robinho
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    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
    So let me get this straight; Obama was elected because GW Bush was a useless inbred religious fundamentalist feckwhitted six fingered hick who left behind an economy in tatters, a war that nobody could win and a country with no friends except the Snot Goblin. Four years later, it turns out Obama is human and can't turn the abominable mess around in just a few years with a republican congress who'll block anything he tries to do, but he hasn't made things worse. So now it's time to elect a new useless inbred religious fundamentalist feckwhitted six fingered hick and turn the whole world fubar???

    Bastards; find a tulip job, give the candidate the wrong tools and a bunch of halfwit colleagues, give the job to a black guy and then blame him and fire him.
    Bush being incredibly tulip does not mean that Obama has not been tulip himself.

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  • darmstadt
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    Apparently on his first day in job, the CIA always tell the incoming President the private toilet key is "in the corner of the Oval Office" just to watch confusion...

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  • SimonMac
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    According to this I should be voting for Obama

    My results at the 2012 Who Should You Vote For? 2012 US Presidential Election Quiz

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by fckvwls View Post
    And Romney is an economic genius with a plan to turn things around that stacks up? I think not.
    He is known as a turn around guy in both business and government who at least is willing to talk about the big problem which Obama hides from.

    I think he would do a far better job of the economy.

    He is a full on tit, granted, but I think they need him more, I think we need him more.

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  • fckvwls
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    I think people are a bit sick of his channeling Martin Luther King stage act to milk votes when he should be talking about the economy.

    The chap has absolutely no clue what he is doing and deserves to go.
    And Romney is an economic genius with a plan to turn things around that stacks up? I think not.

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