Reply to: Should bankruptcy wipe out debt to ex-spouses?

[BrilloPad]

Always remember - women bear children

FTFY

[mudskipper]

Always remember - women bear grudges

Eh? I think you're reading a different thread to me.

[BrilloPad]

He won't get half if the marriage is brief,

Best for him if it is.

[DodgyAgent]

Always remember - women bear grudges

[MyUserName]

However loving and caring your wife seems now you can forget that if you divorce. It is truely amazing how hateful and malicious women get when going through a divorce, honestly it is like some Jeckyle and Hyde thing.

If you divorce then assume that she will come after you with everything she can (and the courts will support her) and that she will do everything to make your life a misery from refusing to sign documents which she needs to sign (thus meaning you have to spend more money on a solicitor to chase her) to her telling the courts that she thinks (without any evidence) that your new girlfriend is a nutter and will not allow you to see your children if she is there - this is, of course, after months of her doing that already but it takes that long to get it to court etc and the entire time she has been telling the kids that you do not want to see them because your new girlfriend hates them.

Make sure that you are careful in how you arrange things and do not leave anything vulnerable because she is likely to grab it.

[vetran]

sad isn't it.

I suggest you work on your rental property empire with your money. That way if you do split you have some contributions to argue over. Its also a great opportunity to change the dynamics slightly.

Put off kids until she has matured enough to realise you are in the traditional female role of the minor earner/financial contributor and need reassurance. As her family have money it may not make sense for her yet.

[SueEllen]

To be honest I feel more secure in this marriage because she has some money. I know she won't ever need to take anything from me.

Sorry you are very stupid if you believe that.

Just because she doesn't need the money from you won't stop her demanding or trying to take it especially if you have kids and you split up.

[SueEllen]

Then your marriage is stuffed. DO NOT HAVE KIDS. The sooner you divorce her the better - you will get half.

Or wait until she inherits then dovorce her.

He won't get half if the marriage is brief, they have no kids, he can't prove he spent a significant sum on the household and he can still support himself.

Though I do agree with you about definitely don't have kids with that woman.

[speling bee]

What happened, did she call you away from the PC?

She's a wonder. I was just calling him a ******* pleb and she pulled me away double quick.

[d000hg]

You never know what people are really like until you divorce them.

It no doubt brings out the worst in people but you can't define someone by how they act at their worst. Or their best.

[d000hg]

Marriage is working out good for me,

What happened, did she call you away from the PC?

[dogzilla]

To be honest I feel more secure in this marriage because she has some money. I know she won't ever need to take anything from me. I'm earning well enough and will be buying a rental property within the next year anyway.

We have talked about making an agreement now, whilst we are on talking terms At the very least it might remind us when we need it most that we were once sane and reasonable people.

[Gentile]

OK chaps this seems like a great thread to tell my story....

I'm married. My wifes family is very wealthy and she was given some money to buy our first home. She insisted that I didn't get a mortgage because the money was already there for it.

The plan is that she has bought the house, and has spent some money on the refurb (because we bought a dilapidated shell). I will be paying for ALL food and bills, plus I'll be buying some bits and pieces, but probably no more than £3-4k on the actual house itself.

So how should I feel in 10 years time if we break up? We've talked about this, and she says that I shouldn't expect anything and that if I'm worried about the future I should save or buy a rental property.

Never been in this situation, hoping I don't ever get into that situation, but what is a fair scenario in this respect? If I've paid bills for 10 years as well has just spent 5 months of my life managing the builders/suppliers and council for the work we are doing.

I know for a fact that if I were a woman I'd expect a full half. Being a reasonable man, I've said something along the lines of "well I don't want to take away your inheritance, but if the house has doubled in value then I would expect to geta proportion of those profits, bearing in mind that I was involved in the refurb and that I will have been paying bills all these years."

What do you chaps recon?

And they say chivalry is dead.

FWIW, I doubt it'd be up to your wife what you'd get if you were to split up. It'd be for a divorce court judge to decide which of you had hired the best lawyer. It's unlikely that her name merely being on the mortgage and yours not being would make a blind bit of difference. Plenty of ex-wives that are later awarded half the value of a family home haven't been the named mortgage holder in their marital homes. Whether you're named on the mortgage or not, it's still an asset that comes out of your marital efforts together. Unless you've signed a prenup to the contrary, you'd be likely to get half the profits from its sale/present value should you split up. (And even a prenup isn't a sure-fire way to guarantee that one party to a marriage will be able to walk away with all the monetary wealth that the marriage has resulted in - British courts don't like pre-nuptial agreements, and usually don't honour them).

[BrilloPad]

she says that I shouldn't expect anything and that if I'm worried about the future I should save or buy a rental property.

Then your marriage is stuffed. DO NOT HAVE KIDS. The sooner you divorce her the better - you will get half.

Or wait until she inherits then dovorce her.

[Zippy]

OK chaps this seems like a great thread to tell my story....

I'm married. My wifes family is very wealthy and she was given some money to buy our first home. She insisted that I didn't get a mortgage because the money was already there for it.

The plan is that she has bought the house, and has spent some money on the refurb (because we bought a dilapidated shell). I will be paying for ALL food and bills, plus I'll be buying some bits and pieces, but probably no more than £3-4k on the actual house itself.

So how should I feel in 10 years time if we break up? We've talked about this, and she says that I shouldn't expect anything and that if I'm worried about the future I should save or buy a rental property.

Never been in this situation, hoping I don't ever get into that situation, but what is a fair scenario in this respect? If I've paid bills for 10 years as well has just spent 5 months of my life managing the builders/suppliers and council for the work we are doing.

I know for a fact that if I were a woman I'd expect a full half. Being a reasonable man, I've said something along the lines of "well I don't want to take away your inheritance, but if the house has doubled in value then I would expect to geta proportion of those profits, bearing in mind that I was involved in the refurb and that I will have been paying bills all these years."

What do you chaps recon?

If you wouldn't get half the profits I reckon she should be paying half the bills.