Reply to: The end to racism is within grasp

[speling bee]

Indeed. I heard a black delivery driver call a black traffic warden something similar after getting a ticket. The traffic warden was quite cool about it - "don't pull that black sh1t on me - park properly".

Did they have good rhythm?

[BrilloPad]

I have told this story before. i was queuing one New year outside arding and hobbs in Clapham junction for the january sales and an argument erupted between a group of afro carribean people who were also queuing. One of them called the other a "black bast***"

Indeed. I heard a black delivery driver call a black traffic warden something similar after getting a ticket. The traffic warden was quite cool about it - "don't pull that black sh1t on me - park properly".

[speling bee]

I have told this story before. i was queuing one New year outside arding and hobbs in Clapham junction for the january sales and an argument erupted between a group of afro carribean people who were also queuing. One of them called the other a "black bast***"

Do you leave the kids at home now?

[DodgyAgent]

Tend to agree, if people are riled they will deliberately say what offends. If an overweight person annoys you you might call them a fat bastard, doesn't mean you spend your time thinking about ways to get at fat people. Similarly, if people have black/whatever friends, it doesn't mean they do not have unjustiable predudices against a group as whole. The whole issue of racism is grossly oversimplified.

I have told this story before. i was queuing one New year outside arding and hobbs in Clapham junction for the january sales and an argument erupted between a group of afro carribean people who were also queuing. One of them called the other a "black bast***"

[xoggoth]

That a I call a black person a n***** deliberately to hurt them doesn't mean I hate black people

Tend to agree, if people are riled they will deliberately say what offends. If an overweight person annoys you you might call them a fat bastard, doesn't mean you spend your time thinking about ways to get at fat people. Similarly, if people have black/whatever friends, it doesn't mean they do not have unjustiable predudices against a group as whole. The whole issue of racism is grossly oversimplified.

[original PM]

You are going to have to work this one out for yourself.

got it

no it does not

thank you

[Doggy Styles]

Another top-notch contribution to a serious discussion there. Well done.

there's you little bit of attention, of you trot now.

It was the heat of the moment.

He doesn't mean it.

But it does raise the question - does it disrespect real cretins? Just as calling someone a Spaz disrespects real spastics?

[speling bee]

I like Gangsta Rap

Is it acceptable to sing

All ma N***** and ma b****** wave your m******f****** hands in the air

Or does that make me racist?

I am confused now

You are going to have to work this one out for yourself.

[original PM]

I like Gangsta Rap

Is it acceptable to sing

All ma N***** and ma b****** wave your m******f****** hands in the air

Or does that make me racist?

I am confused now

[d000hg]

Now you understand why I call you a cretin. It's because you're thick as two short planks.

Another top-notch contribution to a serious discussion there. Well done.

there's you little bit of attention, of you trot now.

[speling bee]

People get very excited about definitions of racism: they behave like a **** over someone's nationality and then say, 'Aha! But that wasn't racist'. The real point is that racism is a sub-set of cuntishness and being a different type of **** doesn't make it all OK.

Hey, 'cuntishness' gets through the filter. Is this a manifestation of the Scunthorpe problem?

[speling bee]

You forgot ginger.

Who cares?

[mudskipper]

I don't agree. If I was the kind of person who liked hurting people for fun, I would use language as a weapon. Call a woman a c***, a black person a n*****, etc.

That a I call a black person a n***** deliberately to hurt them doesn't mean I hate black people, it just means I've found an exposed nerve. If the same person was Chinese I'd call them a C****, if they were gay I'd call them a fag, if they were overweight I'd call them fat, if they wore classes I'd call them 4-eyes, if they were bald I'd call them baldy/slaphead.

This defines the person as a bigot (I think that's the word) but not a racist.

You forgot ginger.

[sasguru]

I don't agree. If I was the kind of person who liked hurting people for fun, I would use language as a weapon. Call a woman a c***, a black person a n*****, etc.

That a I call a black person a n***** deliberately to hurt them doesn't mean I hate black people, it just means I've found an exposed nerveIf the same person was Chinese I'd call them a C****, if they were gay I'd call them a fag, if they were overweight I'd call them fat, if they wore classes I'd call them 4-eyes, if they were bald I'd call them baldy/slaphead.

This defines the person as a bigot (I think that's the word) but not a racist.

Now you understand why I call you a cretin. It's because you're thick as two short planks.

[speling bee]

Ah is that the technical term?

People get very excited about definitions of racism: they behave like a **** over someone's nationality and then say, 'Aha! But that wasn't racist'. The real point is that racism is a sub-set of cuntishness and being a different type of **** doesn't make it all OK.