Reply to: Barstewards!

[norrahe]

The financial damage you can do with posh food is fairly limited. What you really need is somewhere with an eye-wateringly expensive wine list.

Have you seen the wine list at the fat duck

The Michelin guide is my friend.

I've got a few restaurants on my "to do" list while I'm back in blighty, so it looks like they'll be paying.

[Zippy]

That is one hell of a result. No fighting with the agent shennanigans.

I would use this list to chose which restaurant you want to go to be the way.. The Fat Duck sounds acceptable

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The financial damage you can do with posh food is fairly limited. What you really need is somewhere with an eye-wateringly expensive wine list.

[northernladuk]

Been in meetings all arvo. No long lunches for me.

Agency will be emailing line manager with a breakdown of costs.

Line manager has spoken with HR and they c**ked up on the rate negotiations. So what should have been my base rate has ended up as rate including of agency fee.

Agency has agreed to take me and line manager out at a restaurant of my choice. They'really going to regret that

That is one hell of a result. No fighting with the agent shennanigans.

I would use this list to chose which restaurant you want to go to be the way.. The Fat Duck sounds acceptable

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[norrahe]

Or she's been arrested

Been in meetings all arvo. No long lunches for me.

Agency will be emailing line manager with a breakdown of costs.

Line manager has spoken with HR and they c**ked up on the rate negotiations. So what should have been my base rate has ended up as rate including of agency fee.

Agency has agreed to take me and line manager out at a restaurant of my choice. They'really going to regret that

[northernladuk]

I've done it, when I've been a hiring manager, and I know others who have. Some clients lay down the law about margins, and any agency pulling a fast one gets pretty short shrift. Clients generally love agents as much as we do.

Ah, that is very interesting to know! Could change the way you approach a situation if that is the case. Thanks.

[Bunk]

No news, must be a good lunch

Or she's been arrested

[FiveTimes]

No news, must be a good lunch

[NotAllThere]

But not enough to wade in and start sorting the issue out on behalf of a contractor....

I've done it, when I've been a hiring manager, and I know others who have. Some clients lay down the law about margins, and any agency pulling a fast one gets pretty short shrift. Clients generally love agents as much as we do.

[MaryPoppins]

Definately not. It isn't anything to do with Nor until renewal time comes up at which point the issue is between Nor and pimp. That is when the gloves come off!!! Nor now knows what the pimps budget is and he needs to make 12% + anythign he can screw Nor over for. Nor knows what he has so he won't be screwing her over this time. The agent knows he will get in the tulip with the client if he turns down a reasonable offer, remember he is still working for the client but that doesn't give him carte blance to put anyone in. The fact this is an extension makes it even harder for the pimp. He certainly cannot lose the client a solid resource based on greed.

It is business between pimp and client yes, and if you have signed there is nothing you can do. Knowing what the deal is isn't strictly Nor's business but by god she can use it to her advantage... There is a clear line between who's business is who but knowing that is very powerful.

See what I am saying?

Aye. I geddit.

[SimonMac]

So... you say that you know, client thinks you're being paid 150 more, and if pimp corrects the rate immediately (or even backdates it) then that won't automatically rule him out of the upcoming recruitment process.

Simples.

And what if PIMP calls her bluff? Would it be that hard to go back to the client and say I don't like the way I am being threatened.

Everyone has something to lose

[Platypus]

Given that I'll be recruiting in future, they've lost any chance of repeat business.

So... you say that you know, client thinks you're being paid 150 more, and if pimp corrects the rate immediately (or even backdates it) then that won't automatically rule him out of the upcoming recruitment process.

Simples.

[BrilloPad]

I had it before at Goldman. They had 45 contractors getting screwed over. Goldman asked the agent to increase all our rates. The pimp refused. So Goldman threatened to pull the account. Overall they had hundreds of contractors. So the agency relented.

Can the client help you?

[insur]

Please do let us know how you got on with lunch.

[louie]

When you say the client thinks your getting £150 more than you are really getting, do you mean the client knows they are paying X to the agent and assume you weren't bent over and ridden for all your are worth by the agent when negtiating your rate with them?

[Scrag Meister]

Just found out that there is a £150 a day "discrepancy" between my rate and what the client thinks I'm getting.

Have lunch with the pimp today, not sure whether to bring it up then or just email.

They must be idiots to think I wouldn't find out given I'm the one producing the budget.

How have people handled this in the past?

10%, that's not so bad Norrahe.

Definitely have words, but keep them calm and professional.

Let us know how it goes this evening.