Reply to: Good immigrants ...

[vetran]

Oh, the Romans! And what did the Romans ever do for us?

not bad 4 pages

I feel all Gladiatorial I think I may drain the hypercourse.

[bless 'em all]

The English are immigrants too. They came from Germany and stole jobs and women from the hard working Romans!

Oh, the Romans! And what did the Romans ever do for us?

[petergriffin]

The English are immigrants too. They came from Germany and stole jobs and women from the hard working Romans!

[NotAllThere]

It's negative stereotyping that's not acceptable I think. Positively stereotype to your hearts content. Unless it's obviously taking the piss.

[SueEllen]

There has been much research round the world to show that generally Polish tradesmen and like to be paid in cash and then take it back home

Since Polish citizens couldn't work in quite a few other EU countries until last year I doubt it. *

Plus a lot of immigrant women including Polish women work as cleaners and get paid in cash. Do they all declare the cash? With the sums involved unless they run a company I strongly doubt it.

*I had to listen to the moaning about how they "hate" certain countries. All I got was thanks for the Second World War.

[cojak]

And I hope you've verbally praised them in a similar manner.

SASGURU :"I say chaps, you're not a bad little bunch of immigrants and you've done a jolly fine job. Good show !"

Polish Builder: ...

Well that just goes to prove that the Scots can be racists too.

[vetran]

Immigration visa rules are the tightest they've ever been, and fecking expensive. For example in 2002 even (have to check exactly) it was all free, now it's £3/4k end-to-end to do it legally.

The issue is Border Control and ease of mobility, the clandestines sitting in the camps in Calais get caught 9/10, but keep trying and eventually they get it.

deresticted not deregulated, but I see your point.

[stek]

probably this is because the countries select the people for visa's based on their potential?

The people with the get up & go to emigrate are more likely to be self starters.

Now with the derestricted immigration I wonder how it will change?

I wonder how catholics versus supporters of other religions fare?
etc.

but its likely because hard workers are self selecting.

Immigration visa rules are the tightest they've ever been, and fecking expensive. For example in 2002 even (have to check exactly) it was all free, now it's £3/4k end-to-end to do it legally.

The issue is Border Control and ease of mobility, the clandestines sitting in the camps in Calais get caught 9/10, but keep trying and eventually they get it.

[vetran]

Plus there has been research around the world to show that generally immigrants to another country who stay have a tendency to be more hard working than their fellow country folk who stayed at home or return quickly.

probably this is because the countries select the people for visa's based on their potential?

The people with the get up & go to emigrate are more likely to be self starters.

Now with the derestricted immigration I wonder how it will change?

I wonder how catholics versus supporters of other religions fare?
etc.

but its likely because hard workers are self selecting.

[darmstadt]

Ah yes, immigrants:

[EternalOptimist]

q. How do you make a Pole jump?
a. dont pay him cash in hand

[OwlHoot]

.. "Hey, F##k you Englander. For twenty cigarette you f##k my sister, eh ?"

Now that sounds like a good deal. Maybe we should encourage more over (with their sisters of course).

[Ketchup]

As already said stop stereotyping.

I paid my Polish tradesmen (note the plural) by bank transfer.

One of them was recording everything in a book for his accounts. He had a house he had a mortgage on in the UK just like a couple of Polish guys I've worked with.

Plus there has been research around the world to show that generally immigrants to another country who stay have a tendency to be more hard working than their fellow country folk who stayed at home or return quickly.

So because you said "there has been research around the world", your stereotyping is justified?

ok...

There has been much research round the world to show that generally Polish tradesmen and like to be paid in cash and then take it back home

[SueEllen]

I love the work ethic of the eastern europeans, and wish the welfare scum of this country were more like them. The issue i have is that they get paid in cash, then once a year fly back home and take their cash with them rather than it being spent in the UK.

As already said stop stereotyping.

I paid my Polish tradesmen (note the plural) by bank transfer.

One of them was recording everything in a book for his accounts. He had a house he had a mortgage on in the UK just like a couple of Polish guys I've worked with.

Plus there has been research around the world to show that generally immigrants to another country who stay have a tendency to be more hard working than their fellow country folk who stayed at home or return quickly.

[vetran]

Sterotyping groups of people like this is racialistic

or is that only when you say negative things ? where are all the bleeding hearts who would be up in arms if he had said people from x country are all lazy turds ?

good point well made