Reply to: PRINCE2

[cojak]

whs

Same goes for ISEB Practitioner and ISTQB Advanced (testing qualifications). A steaming pile of crap. But if a steaming pile of crap will get my CV through the initial screening by agent, HR and/or purchasing department numpties then I shall provide a steaming pile of crap.

Yep, no point getting precious one way or the other about these things. If they get you as far as an interview, you can do the rest...

[Mich the Tester]

The other way round. I have PRINCE2 but hold it in no esteem. The agents rate it.

whs

Same goes for ISEB Practitioner and ISTQB Advanced (testing qualifications). A steaming pile of crap. But if a steaming pile of crap will get my CV through the initial screening by agent, HR and/or purchasing department numpties then I shall provide a steaming pile of crap.

[Old Greg]

It's a bit like BCS Membership and an MBA. Held in extremely high esteem by those who have one but largely disregarded by those who don't.

I have heard putting 'Prince 2 accredited' in white letters on a white background in a tiny font somewhere one your CV can help you get past numpty agents doing blind searches.

The other way round. I have PRINCE2 but hold it in no esteem. The agents rate it.

[Alf W]

May i know if it is worthy to do PRINCE2 project management course?

It's a bit like BCS Membership and an MBA. Held in extremely high esteem by those who have one but largely disregarded by those who don't.

I have heard putting 'Prince 2 accredited' in white letters on a white background in a tiny font somewhere one your CV can help you get past numpty agents doing blind searches.

[escapeUK]

Prince2 is the methodology invented by HM Government for making IT projects successful.

Wasnt that such an oxymoron! I bought the books some years back intending to do the exams and get it on my cv. I found it to be such a boring load of irrelevant rubbish I couldnt get past chapter 2 or 3.

[northernladyuk]

Maybe not in industry but the birds will love you! More than 5 letters and no one knows what it means but you, would work a treat with the women up north!!

When you told me you'd had your vaginoplaty, I nearly cacked my drawers with excitement.

[northernladuk]

I've always pronounced it "C-Octothorpe".

No wonder I've never got anywhere.

Maybe not in industry but the birds will love you! More than 5 letters and no one knows what it means but you, would work a treat with the women up north!!

[Gentile]

I always thought c# was pronounced "c-hash" so I kept getting funny looks in interviews even though nobody ever said anything.

They probably waited until you left to Moq.

[CodeCobbler]

I always thought c# was pronounced "c-hash" so I kept getting funny looks in interviews even though nobody ever said anything.

[northernladuk]

There is a more basic reason you need to do PRINCE. Agents! They don't have a clue so just match up words and one of those is PRINCE. Without it you won't get a look in regardless if you need it or learn anything from it. Worth doing just to help the agents do their job properly IMO.

I remember one of first contracts I went for and agent asked if I had PRINCE. I told him I did APM and PMP and he said sorry, can't put me forward as I had to have a project managment certification.

[norrahe]

it will tick a box and get you an interview.

but try and run a project to the Prince2 letter and expected headaches....

projects are about delivery not paperwork

WOPMS

It is a good qualification to have, gets your foot in the door.

It's been useful as a guide of what docs you may need dependant on the project, you don't need to use it as the bible of project management.

[Gentile]

...but, on a less whimsical note, Prince II (never write it with the '2' on your CV - it's like writing "dot net" instead of ".Net") is a project management methodology that is of questionable worth, but that is nonetheless popular amongst Public Sector organisations and banks. So, it's worth having if you're targeting those types of roles, but does lend itself to bureaucracy and a cook-book approach that many have concluded is central to the problems often faced by technical projects in those sectors.

[Gentile]

May i know if it is worthy to do PRINCE2 project management course?

You'll need to submit a 10,000-page PID and wait for me to consult all of the relevant stakeholders before I can fully answer that question.

[original PM]

it will tick a box and get you an interview.

but try and run a project to the Prince2 letter and expected headaches....

projects are about delivery not paperwork

[Mich the Tester]

Prince2 is the methodology invented by HM Government for making IT projects successful. You will need this qualification to contract with the government.
Its worth can be seen by the success history of HMG in IT projects , in other words, get it and don’t take it seriously. Prince2 doesn’t teach common sense. Some people have natural managements skills, and that is what makes a project successful.

Of course, HM Government's definition of 'successful' might not be the same as yours or mine.