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Previously on "Jimmy Carr: 'I've made a terrible error of judgement'"

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  • Diver
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post


    I did not claim any benefits.

    Instead in the first 5 years I've spent all the money I've saved working in the UK 5 years prior to that.
    Well done Alexi. for your dedication and commitment to your cause

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    Posts have been made to suggest that you dropped your job after the passport was granted then spent a long time getting state aid.


    I did not claim any benefits.

    Instead in the first 5 years I've spent all the money I've saved working in the UK 5 years prior to that.

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  • Diver
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    But it's perfectly legal to paint him as a villain.
    Or make an acceptable sketch or charcoal etching at least

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  • Moscow Mule
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    Is there a chance he will use the money to get rid of that stupid honking laugh?

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    This is the point you miss, tax on money moved between individuals and companies is varied to a highly complex and variable level.

    Carr has simply used a system to his benefit to move his money to his advantage which is not illegal.

    I think the chap is a throbber to be honest, these tax systems are not ones that I have used but to pluck him out of his group to be painted as a villian when others are blatently racist is farcical.
    But it's perfectly legal to paint him as a villain.

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    It might be "legal" in a sense that "tax evasion" can't be proved beyond reasonable doubt but "the scheme might not work" and he'll end up with lots of penalties which I sincerely hope will happen - so it won't be "illegal", but he'd (hopefully) will need to pay full whack of tax + fines on that money.
    Do not try and paint yourself to be some champion of righteousness for the CUK audience.

    Posts have been made to suggest that you dropped your job after the passport was granted then spent a long time getting state aid.

    Posts you ignore.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    If you put as much energy into making money as you do complaining about others' money, maybe SKA would be successful.
    Maybe it already is

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  • d000hg
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    If you put as much energy into making money as you do complaining about others' money, maybe SKA would be successful.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    Carr has simply used a system to his benefit to move his money to his advantage which is not illegal.
    It might be "legal" in a sense that "tax evasion" can't be proved beyond reasonable doubt but "the scheme might not work" and he'll end up with lots of penalties which I sincerely hope will happen - so it won't be "illegal", but he'd (hopefully) will need to pay full whack of tax + fines on that money.

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    It's true I don't know how bad they get, it's not something I give a tulip about - there is a big difference however between freedom of speech which is essential to keep democracy healthy and "freedom" not to pay taxes at levels everybody else pays - that would destroy state so it's only right for the state to take action with extreme prejudice against such cases.

    What Carr should have been taught in school is that in the unlikely event that he makes a lot more money than everybody else he should always remember that 10 years in jail for tax evasion and 0 tax on 0 earnings is much worse deal than paying whatever the high rate of tax is in the day.


    This is the point you miss, tax on money moved between individuals and companies is varied to a highly complex and variable level.

    Carr has simply used a system to his benefit to move his money to his advantage which is not illegal.

    I think the chap is a throbber to be honest, these tax systems are not ones that I have used but to pluck him out of his group to be painted as a villian when others are blatently racist is farcical.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    You obviously don't know how bad the racist routines which some of these comedians punt out to feverishly supportive audiences. Audiences which probably mostly condemn tax avoidance.
    It's true I don't know how bad they get, it's not something I give a tulip about - there is a big difference however between freedom of speech which is essential to keep democracy healthy and "freedom" not to pay taxes at levels everybody else pays - that would destroy state so it's only right for the state to take action with extreme prejudice against such cases.

    What Carr should have been taught in school is that in the unlikely event that he makes a lot more money than everybody else he should always remember that 10 years in jail for tax evasion and 0 tax on 0 earnings is much worse deal than paying whatever the high rate of tax is in the day.

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  • minestrone
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    One is freedom of speech which should be protected and "tax avoidance" like this case should be classed as tax evasion with appropriate punishments.
    You obviously don't know how bad the racist routines which some of these comedians punt out to feverishly supportive audiences. Audiences which probably mostly condemn tax avoidance.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
    Being a racist looks to be acceptable in the 'court of public opinion' compared to tax management arrangements which Carr is getting vilified for.
    One is freedom of speech which should be protected and "tax avoidance" like this case should be classed as tax evasion with appropriate punishments.

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  • minestrone
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    There is a whole range of 'comedians' that do shows round the country to packed houses on nothing more than jokes about p0ofs, d4rkies and p4kies. That arse Chubby Brown for example.

    Being a racist looks to be acceptable in the 'court of public opinion' compared to tax management arrangements which Carr is getting vilified for.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by TimberWolf View Post
    Probably because he feared he might not get as much TV work or other gigs.
    Exactly.

    Paying 50% is better than paying 0% on no earnings in the future.

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