Reply to: new future toy.. the Intel NUC

[doodab]

Would it surprise you to learn that more ARM processors have been sold than 80x86 compatibles?

Nope, because I already knew that.

I wasn't asking a question, I was making the point that Intel's R&D covers a lot more than "catching up with ARM". Most importantly it's directed at ensuring Intel remains the worlds #1 semiconductor manufacturer, which means among other things that it's directed at ensuring that Intel is first to market with new process technologies that will enable it to produce SoC with higher performance and lower power consumption than Samsung, Qualcomm and the other ARM based chip shops. It's these guys revenue that Intel is chasing, not ARM's per se.

Outside of the tablet / smartphone market Intel aren't interested in ARM's business as it's all about licensing IP for use in ASICs in things like DVD players and set top boxes, and Intel are a semiconductor manufacturing firm. The main competition in that segment is from MIPS & POWER, not x86.

[SupremeSpod]

Yep. I know that.

in "not keen on having a freshly born sprog at my age" mode

You'll love it.

[Sysman]

Me too, in fact, you're older than I am.

Yep. I know that.

in "not keen on having a freshly born sprog at my age" mode

[SupremeSpod]

And the end result is the best choice for an awful lot of applications. Doesn't say much for the rest of them does it?

I'm not sure that I understand your question.

Would it surprise you to learn that more ARM processors have been sold than 80x86 compatibles?

[doodab]

Yep. Intel have spent 30 years polishing a turd. All in the name of backwards compatibility.

And the end result is the best choice for an awful lot of applications. Doesn't say much for the rest of them does it?

[SupremeSpod]

You mean that half the computers in the top500 and the apple macs beloved of fanbois everywhere are using tulip processors?

Yep. Intel have spent 30 years polishing a turd. All in the name of backwards compatibility.

[doodab]

You'd think that with all that going for them they'd be able to make a processor that wasn't tulip, wouldn't you?

You mean that half the computers in the top500 and the apple macs beloved of fanbois everywhere are using tulip processors?

[SupremeSpod]

Too young for that bit.

The sixties were gone by the time I was 16.

Me too, in fact, you're older than I am.

[Sysman]

If you remember the 60s, you weren't there.

Too young for that bit.

The sixties were gone by the time I was 16.

[NickFitz]

Except of course that it also results in cutting edge semiconductor fabrication, multicore programming tools, high speed intoconnects such as pci express, and various other useful innovations.

You'd think that with all that going for them they'd be able to make a processor that wasn't tulip, wouldn't you?

[SupremeSpod]

it was a feck sight better than staying at home with the parents.

If you remember the 60s, you weren't there.

[Sysman]

Oh well. That's part of your life you're never going to get back, eh?

it was a feck sight better than staying at home with the parents.

[doodab]

Intel's "cutting edge research" consists largely of trying to catch up with the technologies used in ARM processors such as that found in the Raspberry Pi.

Except of course that it also results in cutting edge semiconductor fabrication, multicore programming tools, high speed intoconnects such as pci express, and various other useful innovations.

[AtW]

The whole kit. Sometimes they're a rackmounted chassis or other times a "Super Tower" case. We get to keep the towers, Intel like to re-use the rackmounted chassis.

We mainly use rack mounted stuff and typically it's large scale production (I don't like being beta testers).

The thing for us is that having standard servers helps for massively parallel processing and having one box finish job faster does not help since others will keep processing.

But thanks for suggesting, maybe we try to contact them soon ...

[SupremeSpod]

Servers or just CPUs? When we buy server the extra RAM, chassis, HDDs cost far more than actual overpriced Xeons

The whole kit. Sometimes they're a rackmounted chassis or other times a "Super Tower" case. We get to keep the towers, Intel like to re-use the rackmounted chassis.

Currently got a box that contains the following codenames - "Canoe Pass", "Patsburg" "Powerville" and "Romley-EP". Mention them to your Intel rep.

We have access to a test environment in Reading that has a couple of "Knights Bridge" cards installed.

Seriously, the kind of stuff your company does Intel should be falling over backwards to use you as a reference site.