Reply to: Why do customers insist on banging nails in with screwdrivers.

[SupremeSpod]

Only an ex-contractor with 25 years experience would say that.

ftfy.

Btw, shouldn't you be packing?

No, I didn't think so.

[MarillionFan]

Listen, you're paid to keep the seat warm. Contrary to popular belief(well yours anyway), you don't know it all, you're not a highly paid consultant who's been tasked with rationalising the whole IT system. Do your immediate job and keep it zipped, you'll last longer.

Keep calm and carry on invoicing.

Spod - In "" mode

Only a permie would say that.

[SupremeSpod]

Current client is doing my head in...

WHY DON'T THEY LISTEN TO ME????? I'M SO IMPORTANT.

Who in their right mind pays several hundred quid in licences to buy a platform to run something that could be done for free???

Listen, you're paid to keep the seat warm. Contrary to popular belief(well yours anyway), you don't know it all, you're not a highly paid consultant who's been tasked with rationalising the whole IT system. Do your immediate job and keep it zipped, you'll last longer.

Keep calm and carry on invoicing.

Spod - In "" mode

[vetran]

St Mark Russinovich has the solution.

PsExec

Dirty WSH way
Microsoft Windows 2000 Scripting Guide - Running Scripts on Remote Computers

Alternatively write some simple clients that watch the folder and check for a centrally created OK file, all testing of validity done on server. Works fine until they rewrite the clients.

OK its a Kludge but from the sound of the suggestions from the expert permies it will probably be the most reliable part of the design.

Careful though you do sound a bit like a beardy sandal wearer.

[minestrone]

I gave up years ago with multiple clientCo's demands that stupidity is the norm. I just let them get on with it now.

[Sysman]

scarey that microsoft still includes a telnet server but no sshd...

The lack of ssh/sshd on Windows drives many of us nuts. No, Remote Desktop is not what we want.

I haven't enabled a telnet server for years.

[bobspud]

I'm confused. Surely in the Windows sysadmin world, Powershell is an integral part of the server? You might as well say that SSH is a separate program, no?

Out of interest, can you use cygwin and therefore get access to your familiar toolset without as much fuss?

Its the clients security team that bans the use of powershell on internet facing servers... Adding cygwin would also not get approval. SSHD is a core component of all unix flavours these days. Even if the client got mega secure and removed as much of the unix OS as possible including the shells they would still need to leave sshd and /bin/sh otherwise the server stops functioning or becomes the most secure server on the planet as no one can log into it... scarey that microsoft still includes a telnet server but no sshd...

[d000hg]

Can you think of a way to run a single batch file from one windows box that executes commands across 6 machines without having powershell installed? my wintel guys couldn't...

Thus my rant that had they chosen the proper tool for the job the functionality was a built in not an addon that could get bounced by client security...

I'm confused. Surely in the Windows sysadmin world, Powershell is an integral part of the server? You might as well say that SSH is a separate program, no?

Out of interest, can you use cygwin and therefore get access to your familiar toolset without as much fuss?

[bobspud]

No. That was SY01 v1.1 rel 1.

I am SY01 v2.0 rel 1.

I have been upgraded with Stand my ground™ and Lay it on the Line™

Thats the spirit!

[suityou01]

Piss himself, flounce out of the building and whinge all night on CUK.

No. That was SY01 v1.1 rel 1.

I am SY01 v2.0 rel 1.

I have been upgraded with Stand my ground™ and Lay it on the Line™

[bobspud]

Sounds like he doesn't know much about Windows if "use Linux" is the only way he can make it work.

Can you think of a way to run a single batch file from one windows box that executes commands across 6 machines without having powershell installed? my wintel guys couldn't...

Thus my rant that had they chosen the proper tool for the job the functionality was a built in not an addon that could get bounced by client security...

for instance sat on my mac

I can issue

ssh www@webapps -c "ps -ef |grep httpd"

and get all my apache processes without having to think too hard...
Now if I happend to have 10 servers I could do this.

for svr in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
do
ssh www@webapps${svr} -c "/etc/rc3.d/S.99httpd stop"
done

that shuts down apache on all ten of my client facing front ends...

I can even improve on the security by adding a restriction on the shared key that says it can only be used by that user to run that command. so ssh www@webapps2 fails...

[Sysman]

Who in their right mind pays several hundred quid in licences to buy a platform to run something that could be done for free???

So that they can point the finger at the supplier when something goes wrong.


Oh. Hang on a minute.

[SupremeSpod]

Ask yourself this :

WWSY01 do?

Piss himself, flounce out of the building and whinge all night on CUK.

[d000hg]

Sounds ike a golden opportunity to show how much you know and invoice lots! Get in there!

Sounds like he doesn't know much about Windows if "use Linux" is the only way he can make it work.

[BrilloPad]

Ask yourself this :

WWSY01 do?

Ask YOURSELF this - what would MF say that SY01 would do?