Reply to: Civil servants "work" from home

[xoggoth]

Exactly what I thought BP. Work from a civil servant when nobody is watching! hahahahahahahahahahahhaha........

[Platypus]

That is what teacher training days are for.

No TTDs are for professional development, not catching up with paperwork.

[SupremeSpod]

You haven't been in a modern school if you think there's no threat of violence

You know exactly what I mean. Spare the rod, spoil the child.

[d000hg]

That's what happens when you remove the threat of violence from the schoolroom.

You haven't been in a modern school if you think there's no threat of violence

[SupremeSpod]

Of course, if you educate a child at home you can fit a days teaching into 2 hours. Most of teaching is about controlling the kids. It was much better in the good old days. Teachers get a rough deal these days.

That's what happens when you remove the threat of violence from the schoolroom.

[BrilloPad]

Of course, if you educate a child at home you can fit a days teaching into 2 hours. Most of teaching is about controlling the kids. It was much better in the good old days. Teachers get a rough deal these days.

[d000hg]

Them's the choices you make.

No complaints - my 'holiday adjusted' salary is not too bad. My point is that these silly comments about teachers getting 13 weeks paid holiday are not well thought out.

That is what teacher training days are for.

No those are for training the teachers - government keeps changing how/what teachers are supposed to teach so they go on courses to keep up.

PPA is for lesson planning, which says teachers have to be given some non-teaching time during the working week to plan lessons.

[BrilloPad]

Yeah most weekends they get to work at home planning lessons etc

That is what teacher training days are for.

[SupremeSpod]

The short hours (ha!) and long holidays are reflected in the pay. You start at £20k and reach a ceiling of £30k after 5-6 years, beyond which you need to do more to progress further. And this is not a bog-standard council office job, but one which requires a degree and in many cases a masters or other post-graduate qualification.

To me, that seems a fair trade off... lots of holiday but for a professional job the pay is low as a result. If we say a teacher works 39 weeks and a normal person works 48, then an adjusted salary for someone who reaches the top of the pay scale in their late 20s would be £30k * (48/39) = £37k. Hardly an outrageous salary for a professional, your typical programmer who did a similar amount of education will earn more.

Them's the choices you make.

[d000hg]

The short hours (ha!) and long holidays are reflected in the pay. You start at £20k and reach a ceiling of £30k after 5-6 years, beyond which you need to do more to progress further. And this is not a bog-standard council office job, but one which requires a degree and in many cases a masters or other post-graduate qualification.

To me, that seems a fair trade off... lots of holiday but for a professional job the pay is low as a result. If we say a teacher works 39 weeks and a normal person works 48, then an adjusted salary for someone who reaches the top of the pay scale in their late 20s would be £30k * (48/39) = £37k. Hardly an outrageous salary for a professional, your typical programmer who did a similar amount of education will earn more.

[northernladuk]

Can they really not fit it in around their 13 weeks holiday and part time hours?

One day my son's teacher was WFH I bumped into her in Tesco at 3 o'clock in the afternoon.

And you were billing for the time you were in Tescos per chance?

[Alf W]

Yeah most weekends they get to work at home planning lessons etc

Can they really not fit it in around their 13 weeks holiday and part time hours?

One day my son's teacher was WFH I bumped into her in Tesco at 3 o'clock in the afternoon.

[SupremeSpod]

Yeah most weekends they get to work at home planning lessons etc

**** off! Someone pass me my violin.

[fullyautomatix]

Are they not "entitled" to perks that private sector workers enjoy ? If they are not offered these perks, the public sector will lose the highly talented workers to the private sector and the quality of service will go down.

[SimonMac]

What?

Yeah most weekends they get to work at home planning lessons etc