Reply to: Church schools shun poorest pupils?

[BrilloPad]

Of several primary schools near me only one isn't a church school.

So unless I take up church-going my daughter is at risk of attending a school where (according to Ofsted report) 90% of pupils do not have English as a first language. (I presume it's the local Bangladeshi population that's corralled into the one school that'll take anyone.)

They might all be Chinese. You could be giving your daughter a flying start in life.

[IR35 Avoider]

Of several primary schools near me only one isn't a church school.

So unless I take up church-going my daughter is at risk of attending a school where (according to Ofsted report) 90% of pupils do not have English as a first language. (I presume it's the local Bangladeshi population that's corralled into the one school that'll take anyone.)

[northernladuk]

Both work the same way. Like all businesses the less income recorded the better.

Maybe when HMRC have finished with Electricians we will hear the advert for Religions to come clean and speak to the HMRC...

[eek]

I was talking about the Church generally, not the internal administration systems of CofE/RC hierarchy

Both work the same way. Like all businesses the less income recorded the better.

[d000hg]

Boy, you really shouldn't pick a topic on one of my interests and then change it to one I know even more about.

I was talking about the Church generally, not the internal administration systems of CofE/RC hierarchy

[northernladuk]

Would be interesting to see how many of the poor satisfy the criteria of getting in to faith schools by actually showing they practice their faith rather than be plastic catholics etc. I think you will find they don't so join the back of the eligibility queue and so explains the situation. No issue here, move along.

[BrilloPad]

Or else what?

Burn in hell?

I think they get 4 or less.

[AtW]

But they still get great ofstead reviews - 77% get 5+ GCSEs.

Or else what?

[eek]

Indeed. Same with our local Catholic school - a third of the intake are in care. I asked about elder BP boy going there with his SEN. Priest said "almost every child there has some sort of issue or another".

But they still get great ofstead reviews - 77% get 5+ GCSEs.

Criteria 1 for any school is children in the care of the local authority. They then pick the best school for the child which is a brilliant guide as to where you should aim for yourself.

[BrilloPad]

The catholic secondary school I went to actually had the opposite policy being that they would take in the kids who the other schools had given up on!

Didn't exactly do much for their ofsted reports

Indeed. Same with our local Catholic school - a third of the intake are in care. I asked about elder BP boy going there with his SEN. Priest said "almost every child there has some sort of issue or another".

But they still get great ofstead reviews - 77% get 5+ GCSEs.

[Spacecadet]

The catholic secondary school I went to actually had the opposite policy being that they would take in the kids who the other schools had given up on!

Didn't exactly do much for their ofsted reports

[eek]

You have a kids club called crusaders? I'm sure it's perfectly innocent fun but just imagine the fuss in the DM if there was a muslim equivalent

Although the british army did call some of it's armoured vehicles saracens didn't it?

I've seen a club called Martyrs before. From memory it was a attached to a Baptist church so hardly surprising.

Thinking about it, it may actually have been the name the leaders used.

[mudskipper]

You have a kids club called crusaders? I'm sure it's perfectly innocent fun but just imagine the fuss in the DM if there was a muslim equivalent

Although the british army did call some of it's armoured vehicles saracens didn't it?

- very true

[doodab]

Must admit, didn't even have to do that - and I guess for really poor families finding an extra couple of quid each week for collection is itself a barrier. Went occasionally to the Brownies services and packed kids off to Crusaders on a Friday evening. Vicar seemed quite happy to write reference letter based on that.

You have a kids club called crusaders? I'm sure it's perfectly innocent fun but just imagine the fuss in the DM if there was a muslim equivalent

Although the british army did call some of it's armoured vehicles saracens didn't it?

[eek]

How can something over 51% of primary schools have less than their fair proportion of free school meals?

Yes I can answer the question but it does show that those who care about eduction carefully choice the schools of their children and the rest don't.