Jail or Flogging

[MarillionFan]

Whatever. 2/10.

MF: you were only in prison for a conjugal visit weren't you?

Always just for a visit. Allowed home afterwards. Not sure I'd want to stay overnight.

[d000hg]

Might have been the daily mail. Better than getting a sense of humour from the guardian.

Whatever. 2/10.

MF: you were only in prison for a conjugal visit weren't you?

[xoggoth]

Both approaches I'd say. Most first time offenders are deterred by a caution, some young men do grow out of crime, rehab works for some addicts so I'd say there's nowt wrong with a soft approach for 1st timers who show willing or any who have really made an effort to reform.

It's the perpetual reooffenders who show no intent or ability to change their ways we should be harsh on. Those cost an enormous amount every year and influence others into crime. They say prison doesn't work but if other approaches don't work either, prison is the only option that protects other people. I think people greatly underestimate the effect of crime on the victims and the way it affects their lives, sometimes permanently.

[vetran]

Actually reading the Jeffery Archer diaries and would guess they are fairly factual.

It does seem that the prisons could be better run and there are serious problems within that need attention if recidivism is going to be reduced.

[MarillionFan]

You've been to prison then, to know what it's like?

Nope. Not been to a holiday camp either.

I've been to both. There;'s more to do at a holiday camp, but prison is cheaper.

[doomage]

I guess you read it in a reliable source like The Sun then.

Might have been the daily mail. Better than getting a sense of humour from the guardian.

[d000hg]

I guess you read it in a reliable source like The Sun then.

[doomage]

You've been to prison then, to know what it's like?

Nope. Not been to a holiday camp either.

[d000hg]

How about introducing flogging in prisons, to make them less like a holiday camp (or centre parcs if you get my drift).

You've been to prison then, to know what it's like?

[vetran]

Watched 'Question time' and then 'Coppers' what slowly became clear to me was that much of the police time is spent dealing with substance abuse and if the alternative to prison was forced treatment then everything would be better.

I'm a fan of early stringent rehabilitation and subsequent offences are dealt with more harshly.


Flogging seems like revenge as it doesn't resolve the issue in most cases.

[doomage]

How about introducing flogging in prisons, to make them less like a holiday camp (or centre parcs if you get my drift).

[d000hg]

It would be better to bring back the cane for teenage children.

Keep your fantasies to yourself.

[BrilloPad]

It would be better to bring back the cane for teenage children.

[Halo Jones]

Could put a lot of “ladies” out of business in the City, all those business men will just do some petty theft & opt for the flogging

[Troll]

Interestingly it gives criminals the choice between a custodial or flogging punishment

Prisons impose tremendous costs, yet they're easily ignored. Criminals-- even low-level nonviolent offenders-- enter our dysfunctional criminal justice system and disappear into a morass that's safely hidden from public view. Our "tough on crime" political rhetoric offers us no way out, and prison reformers are too quickly dismissed as soft on criminals. Meanwhile, the taxpayer picks up the extraordinary and unnecessary bill.

In Defense of Flogging presents a solution both radical and simple: give criminals a choice between incarceration and the lash. Flogging is punishment: quick, cheap, and honest.