Bad contract news

[alreadypacked]

Notice periods beyond the payment cycle are almost unenforceable. Notice periods at all are extremely weak on the employer side. Mostly they protect the employee.

Given how incredibly hard it is to sack a permie, that's like the Holy Grail of permiedom.

If you can get all your work done within 40 hours, go home. The slightest hint that you're being discriminated against for not working "enough hours", threaten to resign and saddle 'em with a constructive dismissal suit.

If you can't get all your work done within 40 hours, go home. The slightest hint that you're being discriminated against for not getting your work done, threaten to resign and saddle 'em with a constructive dismissal suit.

All that's required is you keep notes of the work you've actually done.

Join a trade union and pay a years fees up front.

They have the best lawyers on retainer. So you can tell them the constructive dismissal suit, will not cost you anything. I would accept an offer of 6 months pay.

HTH

[cojak]

Notice periods beyond the payment cycle are almost unenforceable. Notice periods at all are extremely weak on the employer side. Mostly they protect the employee.

Given how incredibly hard it is to sack a permie, that's like the Holy Grail of permiedom.

If you can get all your work done within 40 hours, go home. The slightest hint that you're being discriminated against for not working "enough hours", threaten to resign and saddle 'em with a constructive dismissal suit.

If you can't get all your work done within 40 hours, go home. The slightest hint that you're being discriminated against for not getting your work done, threaten to resign and saddle 'em with a constructive dismissal suit.

All that's required is you keep notes of the work you've actually done.

<Starts to take notes for Mr C's benefit...>

[Scrag Meister]

Oh FFS,

I left my permie job to go contracting on 12 weeks notice period.

There is no 'point of no return'.

You're either a contractor, or you aren't...

Me too, 3 months notice followed by 3 month bench.

[NotAllThere]

Notice period now going to be 12 weeks, making it very difficult to head back to contracting when the time comes.

Notice periods beyond the payment cycle are almost unenforceable. Notice periods at all are extremely weak on the employer side. Mostly they protect the employee.

Also, changing the contract from 40 hours a week to professional working day...

Given how incredibly hard it is to sack a permie, that's like the Holy Grail of permiedom.

If you can get all your work done within 40 hours, go home. The slightest hint that you're being discriminated against for not working "enough hours", threaten to resign and saddle 'em with a constructive dismissal suit.

If you can't get all your work done within 40 hours, go home. The slightest hint that you're being discriminated against for not getting your work done, threaten to resign and saddle 'em with a constructive dismissal suit.

All that's required is you keep notes of the work you've actually done.

[oracleslave]

Resign and take them to the cleaners for constructive dismissal.

Wilmslow, get this muppet to represent you and you'll be proper boomed innit!

[TheFaQQer]

Resign and take them to the cleaners for constructive dismissal.

[TheFaQQer]

Oh FFS,

I left my permie job to go contracting on 12 weeks notice period.

There is no 'point of no return'.

You're either a contractor, or you aren't...

I suspect that you and Wilmslow are somewhat different in ability.

[shaunbhoy]

early starters like me will be frowned upon for leaving any earlier than I normally do

Wouldn't think there would be that much of a furious reaction to YOU leaving early Wilmslow.
Although the whoops of delight from those remaining must get a tad wearing after a while, not to mention the accompanying effect on productivity of the inpromptu celebratory parties.

[alreadypacked]

We are getting new contracts at my permie work.

Notice period now going to be 12 weeks, making it very difficult to head back to contracting when the time comes.

Also, changing the contract from 40 hours a week to professional working day. This means that some will take the piss even more, when early starters like me will be frowned upon for leaving any earlier than I normally do, but will be expected to stay on a lot later, despite modern marvels of laptop, vpn token and company mobile…….

This is the point of no return.

I left my permie role when they tried to give me a new contract.

[Spacecadet]

THey can't just change your working hours and terms and conditions without consolation.

Indeed!
Has anyone from HR offered you a hug or anything to help you get over this?

[Jeebo72]

We are getting new contracts at my permie work.

Notice period now going to be 12 weeks, making it very difficult to head back to contracting when the time comes.

Also, changing the contract from 40 hours a week to professional working day. This means that some will take the piss even more, when early starters like me will be frowned upon for leaving any earlier than I normally do, but will be expected to stay on a lot later, despite modern marvels of laptop, vpn token and company mobile…….

This is the point of no return.

Notice? One day just don't turn up. Don't answer phone calls. You'll get paid for about a month, they won't persue you. What a mate of mine did at a well known gas company. They won't persue you thro' courts as there's nothing to gain.

[Mich the Tester]

Grow some balls, find a contract and tell your boss to shove his notice period and his 'professional day' up his arse. Chances are he'll sack you and you can leave the building immediately, laughing in his face as you go.

[FiveTimes]

We are getting new contracts at my permie work.

Notice period now going to be 12 weeks, making it very difficult to head back to contracting when the time comes.

Also, changing the contract from 40 hours a week to professional working day. This means that some will take the piss even more, when early starters like me will be frowned upon for leaving any earlier than I normally do, but will be expected to stay on a lot later, despite modern marvels of laptop, vpn token and company mobile…….

This is the point of no return.

THey can't just change your working hours and terms and conditions without consultation .
You don't have to accept this. They tried to do this at my previous permie job and I refused to agree to the changes and everything stayed the same.

If they are changing your contract drastically then its a period of negotiations.
Ask for more money in exchange.

[cojak]

Oh FFS,

I left my permie job to go contracting on 12 weeks notice period.

There is no 'point of no return'.

You're either a contractor, or you aren't...

[Wilmslow]

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