What a surprise

[EternalOptimist]

I'm always impressed by the ingenuity of part of the crim fraternity (although a good proportion of them are still big time inadequates). Multiple benefits claims, card skimming, identity fraud etc. Instead of throwing them in clink (on the odd occasion they get caught) we should get them working for the UK. Export them to extract money from other peoples' economies. Ok, so we've had the City to do that until now, but it can't hurt to diversify.

When I was a doley, I had my lecky on the fiddle. One day they came round to install new security measures and the manager said to me 'there is so much ingenuity in these fiddles, its beyond belief.'
One guy had a wire that inserted into the box through a tiny hole , but only when the door was closed. So when he ever got hit by a dawn raid, they opened the door and he was in the clear.

there was only one guy in our whole street who was not fiddling his lekky

[MrMark]

window cleaners
brickies
plasterers
labourers
a bit of robbing
bone idle
child minders
dog walkers
gardeners
market stall
multi-claimants

I'm always impressed by the ingenuity of part of the crim fraternity (although a good proportion of them are still big time inadequates). Multiple benefits claims, card skimming, identity fraud etc. Instead of throwing them in clink (on the odd occasion they get caught) we should get them working for the UK. Export them to extract money from other peoples' economies. Ok, so we've had the City to do that until now, but it can't hurt to diversify.

[EternalOptimist]

So what DO those people do for money instead?

window cleaners
brickies
plasterers
labourers
a bit of robbing
bone idle
child minders
dog walkers
gardeners
market stall
multi-claimants

[d000hg]

Tough tests have seen most new applicants for Employment and Support Allowance, the successor to Incapacity Benefit, either abandoning their claim halfway through or being found fit for work.

So what DO those people do for money instead?

[vetran]

EO

Like the way you are thinking.

[EternalOptimist]

THOUSANDS of benefit cheats have been exposed by failing to turn up for new get-tough stints of unpaid work.
Around half of all dole-claimants sent to do four-week community projects aren't arriving for them, The Sun can reveal.

Benefit cheats have been exposed by failing to turn up for new get-tough stints of unpaid work | The Sun |News|Politics

Tough tests have seen most new applicants for Employment and Support Allowance, the successor to Incapacity Benefit, either abandoning their claim halfway through or being found fit for work.

what does the panel think?

If you offer people free money, they will take it.
All of these systems were set up poorly in the first place, relying on people to play the game for the greater good was pie in the sky.
Setting up a secure, difficult to crack, hard to manipulate system should come first, not as an afterthought

[shaunbhoy]

what does the panel think?

Yeeehaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

Darn tooting!!!

[vetran]

THOUSANDS of benefit cheats have been exposed by failing to turn up for new get-tough stints of unpaid work.
Around half of all dole-claimants sent to do four-week community projects aren't arriving for them, The Sun can reveal.

Benefit cheats have been exposed by failing to turn up for new get-tough stints of unpaid work | The Sun |News|Politics

Tough tests have seen most new applicants for Employment and Support Allowance, the successor to Incapacity Benefit, either abandoning their claim halfway through or being found fit for work.

what does the panel think?