Reply to: Tony Blair Antichrist

[MarillionFan]

Lol

[TimberWolf]

Except anybody who bought the Action Man doll called 'The Ally'.



Although apparently it was outsold by the Bin Laden version.

[shaunbhoy]

Former US President Carter on Blair



Is the simple fact of not going to war that, given what came next, should be recognised. "In the last 50 years now, more than that," he says, "that's almost a unique achievement." He was bitterly opposed to both Iraq wars. "Iraq was just a terrible mistake. I thought so in Iraq 1, and I was against it in Iraq 2."

And it's not just George W Bush who has blood on his hands, he says, but Tony Blair too:

"I don't know what went on in private meetings when Tony Blair agreed to it. But had Bush not gotten that tacit support from Blair, I don't know if the course of history might have been different."

Oh change the fooking record Alf FFS!!

[AlfredJPruffock]

Former US President Carter on Blair



Is the simple fact of not going to war that, given what came next, should be recognised. "In the last 50 years now, more than that," he says, "that's almost a unique achievement." He was bitterly opposed to both Iraq wars. "Iraq was just a terrible mistake. I thought so in Iraq 1, and I was against it in Iraq 2."

And it's not just George W Bush who has blood on his hands, he says, but Tony Blair too:

"I don't know what went on in private meetings when Tony Blair agreed to it. But had Bush not gotten that tacit support from Blair, I don't know if the course of history might have been different."

[AlfredJPruffock]

Former US President Carter on Blair


It's the second time we've talked about Blair. Money has disfigured American politics, Carter says. I ask him about the pledge he made the day after he lost his bid for re-election, when he told the press he would not make money off the back of his presidency. Is that true?

"That is correct," he says. Then he jokes: "It was kind of a weak moment."

What inspired it?

"My favourite president, and the one I admired most, was Harry Truman. When Truman left office he took the same position. He didn't serve on corporate boards. He didn't make speeches around the world for a lot of money."

Unlike Blair, I say. He's made a fortune since leaving office.

"I know he has. I know that."

What do you think of that?

"I wouldn't comment on that."

But then he doesn't need to. His whole life has been a comment on that.

[Doggy Styles]

I very much doubt 30% of the American public know who TB is.

Except anybody who bought the Action Man doll called 'The Ally'.



Although apparently it was outsold by the Bin Laden version.

[d000hg]

About 40% of them aren't even entirely sure who they are.

That's entirely normal though and 40% is optimistic for US or UK!

[doodab]

I very much doubt 30% of the American public know who TB is. 30% probably don't know who the Vice President is.

About 40% of them aren't even entirely sure who they are.

[d000hg]

30% (I think) of the American public who believe that Tony Blair is the AntiChrist.

I very much doubt 30% of the American public know who TB is. 30% probably don't know who the Vice President is.

[Doggy Styles]

But was it though? It was better for us in the long run to cock up everything obviously and quickly, and be booted out at the next election, rather than doing the same more slowly and winning one election after another because too many dozy sheeple voters didn't notice the decline.

13 years wasn't obviously or quickly.

[NotAllThere]

Dunno about the antichrist, I think of him as Asimov's Clown.

Huh?

[OwlHoot]

PPS If I had to pick worst thing it would be having Brown as chancellor. A few hundred thousand killed in his wars is small beer compared to that evil.

But was it though? It was better for us in the long run to cock up everything obviously and quickly, and be booted out at the next election, rather than doing the same more slowly and winning one election after another because too many dozy sheeple voters didn't notice the decline.

[Doggy Styles]

Dunno about the antichrist, I think of him as Asimov's Clown.

[xoggoth]

Atheist me but that all sounds very convincing.

PS NI was good thing though.
PPS If I had to pick worst thing it would be having Brown as chancellor. A few hundred thousand killed in his wars is small beer compared to that evil.

[NotAllThere]

I'm not a religious man. In fact, as I may have mentioned on these pages before, I'm actually Jewish, so the book of Revelations doesn't have much of a bearing on my spiritual life.

However, I can't help feeling that some credence should be given to the views of 30% (I think) of the American public who believe that Tony Blair is the AntiChrist.

Let's look at the evidence.

1) Within weeks of getting in there's the Diana thing.
2) Wars in Sierra Leone and Kosovo
3) I'm no fan of labour, but all the half decent people who spoke out against him seem to have died; Mo Mowlam, Robin Cook, Tony Banks (remember him?) sure there are others
4) The David Kelly thing. His dibs are all over it.
5) Foisting the pus filled bag of hatred that is John Prescott on the British public.
6) His Elena Ceauşescuesque wife
7) The fact that he's the Middle East Peace () envoy (frikkin great job you're doing there, Tone) - wasn't the dark one supposed to eminate from that region?
8) Read in the Torygraph TODAY that he's now advocating REGIME CHANGE IN iRAN

Now then if only I can keep a straight face abut Jacob spilling his seed all over the floor, I might just make my way through the book of Revelations before I go to beddie Bies.

Night All,

Pacha.

Two points of failure:

1. Tony's war in Sierra Leone was probably one of the best things he ever did.
2. Jacob spilling his seed is part of Genesis, not Revelations, is part of the Torah, and therefore part of your alledged cultural heritage.

(TB may well be the anti-christ, however).