Eco Petrol withdrawn.

[doodab]

So basically what you're saying is if you have a new car, it's not eco-loony to use this petrol.
Other than eco and corrosive issues, how does it differ from regular varieties?

Indeed. That's why in lots of places it's been introduced without a major fuss. I think it results in slightly less power and slightly higher fuel consumption.

[d000hg]

It screws up the engine of some cars. Most new cars can handle it, but do want to risk it?

So basically what you're saying is if you have a new car, it's not eco-loony to use this petrol.
Other than eco and corrosive issues, how does it differ from regular varieties?

[DimPrawn]

Everytime I read about Germany throwing their industrial lead away, I feel a step closer to the collapse of the Euro and the great spekulative opportunity that will bring to us Brits.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

The policy is "Eco-Loon", not the government.

I consider the invasion of Irak also as lunacy but I wouldn't classify the 53% of the Americans as lunatics.

However some Green politicians are loonies because they're entire raison d'etre is to push loonie policies through.

You're right - it's much higher than that.

[EternalOptimist]

Who's the new "Adolph" then?

I dunno. that kitler they had on here last week, looked liked a right one, with his little catty moustache

what dyou think ?

[Churchill]

The last time 80% of the German population had a great idea to save the world, they were also worried about nuclear and also had a dash for gas

Who's the new "Adolph" then?

[EternalOptimist]

The population of Germany is about 80% eco-loon (by your definition). They want the nuclear power switched off, they want to switch to renewable energy etc etc blah blah blah. They really do.

The last time 80% of the German population had a great idea to save the world, they were also worried about nuclear and also had a dash for gas

[BlasterBates]

Well there's pretty much universal horror in the business community about what's going on as expressed by the ex head of the German equivalent of the CBI and the chief editor of the Handelsblatt, who have their ears to the business community and act as "conduits", and I've been listening them for years and I've never heard them make such dire warnings before. Even ex-chancellor Helmut Kohl and his predecessor Helmut Schmidt have been weighing into this debate. Helmut Schmidt describes climate scientists as "Betrueger" (fraudsters).

So yes maybe 80% of the German population want to exit Atomic power, but they're going to pay a heavy price.

Of course they're pummelled of images from Fukashima, and Green-peace activists, about how catastrophic it was.

...and what was the death toll?

0

[doodab]

The policy is "Eco-Loon", not the government.

I consider the invasion of Irak also as lunacy but I wouldn't classify the 53% of the Americans as lunatics.

However some Green politicians are loonies because they're entire raison d'etre is to push loonie policies through.

The population of Germany is about 80% eco-loon (by your definition). They want the nuclear power switched off, they want to switch to renewable energy etc etc blah blah blah. They really do.

[BlasterBates]

The policy is "Eco-Loon", not the government.

I consider the invasion of Irak also as lunacy but I wouldn't classify the 53% of the Americans as lunatics.

However some Green politicians are loonies because they're entire raison d'etre is to push loonie policies through.

[doodab]

The fact that Merkel pushed it through doesn't make it any less "loonie", that's the scary thing that "Eco-Loonieism" is now mainstream, be even worse with a Green Chancellor.

Well the world is definitely ****ed then, because about 80% of Germans are eco loons.

[BlasterBates]

Ethanol is apparently quite corrosive. It isn't actually "destroying" cars but apparently there are about 3 million cars in Germany that probably shouldn't use it because there is a risk of damage and the German public are reluctant to buy it just in case.

It was actually Merkel who pushed this through, not the "eco-loons". The "withdrawal" is in fact just Shell choosing not to sell it at the moment, and will sell the E5 (5% ethanol) stuff instead. Apparently Aral have done the same thing.

The fact that Merkel pushed it through doesn't make it any less "loonie", that's the scary thing that "Eco-Loonieism" is now mainstream, be even worse with a Green Chancellor.

[doodab]

Why does it destroy cars?

Ethanol is apparently quite corrosive. It isn't actually "destroying" cars but apparently there are about 3 million cars in Germany that probably shouldn't use it because there is a risk of damage and the German public are reluctant to buy it just in case.

It was actually Merkel who pushed this through, not the "eco-loons". The "withdrawal" is in fact just Shell choosing not to sell it at the moment, and will sell the E5 (5% ethanol) stuff instead. Apparently Aral have done the same thing.

[BlasterBates]

It screws up the engine of some cars. Most new cars can handle it, but do want to risk it?

[BlasterBates]

The car destroying E10 Eco petrol is being withdrawn. Well not withdrawn but lets face it when the normal petrol is back on offer no-one is going to buy it.

E10-Desaster: Ölkonzerne beugen sich wütenden Autofahrern - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Auto

A small but important victory in the quest for an "Eco-Loon" free world.



What should be the next battleground, Tungsten lamps or wind generators?