Reply to: Apple now bigger than Microsoft

[NickFitz]

It does that for the security updates too. I think they changed it sometime during 10.5 so that it reboots to a minimum config to apply bits of the update, followed by a normal reboot once done.

It sometimes did that in 10.4.x. as well.

[threaded]

It does that for the security updates too. I think they changed it sometime during 10.5 so that it reboots to a minimum config to apply bits of the update, followed by a normal reboot once done.

Correct.

[Sysman]

It does that for system level upgrades - like going to 10.5.x.

It does that for the security updates too. I think they changed it sometime during 10.5 so that it reboots to a minimum config to apply bits of the update, followed by a normal reboot once done.

[Moscow Mule]

I didn't do it recently but I seem to recall my Mac (10.5) makes me restart after installing updates,

It does that for system level upgrades - like going to 10.5.x.

[Spacecadet]

I didn't do it recently but I seem to recall my Mac (10.5) makes me restart after installing updates, exactly like Windows Update... although Windows has to be-booted from updates way less often than in the past.
These people that post things like "installed Win7, after 10 min it had blue-screened twice"... I can never work out what the hell they're doing to get this effect. Are theytrying to break it to prove it is crap, like the priest who smashes everything up in an old Father Ted episode? My Mac, & Windows machines all have about the same crash/blue-screen rate... virtually zero, even though they tend to run for weeks using hibernate without a clean reboot

I had a situation last night when upgrading my hard drive.
After restoring my backup of the C partition to the new drive using acronis and then booting to windows, I was getting a bootmgr missing error.
Plonked in the Windows 7 dvd and ran repair, 2 minutes later windows was booting normally even though the other 2 partitions hadn’t been formatted or recovered and all my user specific application data including windows user data was missing.
Logged on to windows, got a couple of warning messages about paths not being valid. Reformatted and named the partitions, restored the files then rebooted. Windows then spent the next hour reindexing the drives, only reason I knew is because I went to see if it was doing that in the resource monitor, system performance seemed normal.

[Sysman]

I certainly haven't seen that with PS/2 or USB mice... laptops let you plug in mice and pull them out all the time. Even Win95 allowed this IIRC (you maybe couldn't start the PC with no mouse, perhaps, and plug one in).

It surprised me too. This is an HP tower system of indeterminate age and PS/2 mouse.

It also offers a popup suggesting a reboot when I insert a USB stick (though doesn't insist on one, and brings up an Explorer window showing its contents). Odd.

[d000hg]

"system restarts today"

Apple 0
MS 2

I didn't do it recently but I seem to recall my Mac (10.5) makes me restart after installing updates, exactly like Windows Update... although Windows has to be-booted from updates way less often than in the past.
These people that post things like "installed Win7, after 10 min it had blue-screened twice"... I can never work out what the hell they're doing to get this effect. Are theytrying to break it to prove it is crap, like the priest who smashes everything up in an old Father Ted episode? My Mac, & Windows machines all have about the same crash/blue-screen rate... virtually zero, even though they tend to run for weeks using hibernate without a clean reboot

[d000hg]

I couldn't believe it last week when I discovered that the mouse cable on a work XP system was tangled:

1. Disconnect mouse and re-route cable
2. Reconnect mouse
3. Need a reboot to get mouse working again
4. WTF? moment

I certainly haven't seen that with PS/2 or USB mice... laptops let you plug in mice and pull them out all the time. Even Win95 allowed this IIRC (you maybe couldn't start the PC with no mouse, perhaps, and plug one in).

[Sysman]

"system restarts today"

Apple 0
MS 2

I couldn't believe it last week when I discovered that the mouse cable on a work XP system was tangled:

1. Disconnect mouse and re-route cable
2. Reconnect mouse
3. Need a reboot to get mouse working again
4. WTF? moment

[centurian]

In terms of number of employees for example IBM is about 4 times the size of Microsoft and 10 times Apple.

Ah, but needing 4/10x the number of employees to achieve the same thing isn't something to be proud of - at least to investors. Wonderful for employees/contractors.

Going back decades, success within IBM was measured by the amount of employees you had working for you. That culture has changed to a degree since the strife of the early 90s, but I don't think they've eradicated it.

[Pondlife]

"system restarts today"

Apple 0
MS 2

[Moscow Mule]

Indeed

"Chinese Worker Suicides"
Apple 9
MS 0
Dell 21

FTFY

[Scary]

Market cap is pretty meaningless. AAPL has gone to the moon thanks to dirty spekulants. In terms of number of employees for example IBM is about 4 times the size of Microsoft and 10 times Apple.

[Spacecadet]

In top trumps terms -

"Style"
Apple 100%
MS - 23%

There is always one category that can beat the opponent.

Indeed

"Chinese Worker Suicides"
Apple 9
MS 0

[FiveTimes]

or so the BBC news headline reports:

BBC News - Apple passes Microsoft to be biggest tech company



In top trump terms I'd still say that MS was the bigger of the two

In top trumps terms -

"Style"
Apple 100%
MS - 23%

There is always one category that can beat the opponent.