Reply to: Is it game over for UK?

[Gonzo]

My gut feeling is that it the way we are heading, however I'm forced to disagree with my gut feeling after years of hearing my Grandad's and father's generation saying how the country is going down the pan, not what it used to be etc,. I think its jsut part of growing older

I agree.

It is perfectly normal for the older gits to start bemoaning how the the country is declining - I have heard it from parents and grandparents in the past. It is just a sign that it is time for you to hand responsibility for the future over to the next generation.

[SuperZ]

I thought this might be interesting until he started spewing tulipe outta religious texts!

I know, I remember frowning on reading those parts when I first came across the article, still makes for an interesting read though.

I keep reading about how good it is that we have a 'healthy' growth in population. The argument being that more young people are needed to pay taxes to support the ageing population. These young will eventually grow old and need even more young to support them. A Ponzi scheme for sure. In reality there isn't enough real productive (i.e. private sector) work to go around so many of these people will either work for the state in some way or will be claiming benefits, adding to an already creaking system.

Yep, but even before the long term effects, quality of life is a real issue. I get around alot and in some parts of the country I feel the overpopulation has had a very negative impact already (some real overcrowded shi*holes around)

[mace]

My gut feeling is that it the way we are heading, however I'm forced to disagree with my gut feeling after years of hearing my Grandad's and father's generation saying how the country is going down the pan, not what it used to be etc,. I think its jsut part of growing older

As it's all relative, the UK's share of the world's wealth peaked in 1870 and has been going downhill ever since. You should listen to your elders, sonny.

[ChimpMaster]

http://www.realtruth.org/articles/07...02-ssoafn.html

I thought this might be interesting until he started spewing sh1te outta religious texts!

[TinTrump]

Read "The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers" by Paul Kennedy.

I now live on a small island, beginning with B, with declining oil reserves, precious little manufacturing, high unemployment in the indigenous population and reliance upon immigrants as low paid workers. Er...

[Moscow Mule]

Well this is what I've been saying for ages. Thing is it takes a long time to decline into 3rd world standards.
If you are using Rome as an example - well they haven't done too badly have they - they turned into Italy.

So in 1500 years (give or take) we'll have a sexist idiot of a prime minister?

I can't wait.

[Mich the Tester]

Doesn't decadence and decline mean sinking into a morass of mindless sex orgies. How come I am not getting my share? We should be throw lefties into arenas with lions too.

Only the ugly ones.

[Pogle]

is that a RED hamster?

Nope - its a very well read GUINEA PIG

[George Parr]

Until that bubble bursts........
Long term population growth/over population is one of my fears. It helps the economy but will one day end in tears

I keep reading about how good it is that we have a 'healthy' growth in population. The argument being that more young people are needed to pay taxes to support the ageing population. These young will eventually grow old and need even more young to support them. A Ponzi scheme for sure. In reality there isn't enough real productive (i.e. private sector) work to go around so many of these people will either work for the state in some way or will be claiming benefits, adding to an already creaking system.

[TimberWolf]

We can be world class in over-population. I think we are already the most densely populated country in Europe and may soon have the highest population too

[sasguru]

Well this is what I've been saying for ages. Thing is it takes a long time to decline into 3rd world standards.
If you are using Rome as an example - well they haven't done too badly have they - they turned into Italy.

[sasguru]

I look at all the fine minds that post on this board

[SuperZ]

We will be fine as long as the population keeps growing at 1/2 million people a year

Until that bubble bursts........
Long term population growth/over population is one of my fears. It helps the economy but will one day end in tears

[xoggoth]

Doesn't decadence and decline mean sinking into a morass of mindless sex orgies. How come I am not getting my share? We should be throw lefties into arenas with lions too.

[badgerpig]

dont mean to be a pessimist but is it time to stop reading the Daily Mail?

is that a RED hamster?