Reply to: Baby P's mother: 'Life will be one long party after jail'

[SueEllen]

But it is legal for a man to undergo chemical castration in the UK so surely there could be some equivalent for women, no?

The guys have to volunteer for it.

If she volunteered for sterilisation then I have no problems with it.

I'm not up for the state sanctioning anything as laws will be misused and there are examples of it everywhere.

[vetran]

Make them wear a Cherie Blair face mask for the rest of their lives, that should stop them getting pregnant

Didn't stop her!

[MyUserName]

Because he's not a terribly nice person? Itching to get his pitchfork out I reckon, or has a pail of tar that needs using up.

I can only wish I was as nice and well balanced as Abraham. As my getting my pitchfork out, nah it can stay in your chest a bit longer yet.

[amcdonald]

But it is legal for a man to undergo chemical castration in the UK so surely there could be some equivalent for women, no?

Make them wear a Cherie Blair face mask for the rest of their lives, that should stop them getting pregnant

[MaryPoppins]

I just hope Mrs BP does not read this in the media : she is still upset by the case (baby BP is similar age to baby P) and thinks of baby p most days.

I missed this thread first time round. I must say, this sort of drivel does irritate me.

[d000hg]

Why not hope that she rehabilitates herself, gets an education and spends the rest of her life doing good to try an atone for her terrible crime?

Because he's not a terribly nice person? Itching to get his pitchfork out I reckon, or has a pail of tar that needs using up.

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

IMHO the death penalty will worsen an already terrible situation. Vile crimes are committed for any number of reasons but for an educated, 'moral', sane and rational person to condemn another to death makes them no better than the perpetrator of the crime. The murder may have been committed in the name of insanity, the death of the murderer would be in the name of justice - the end result is the same - one person has killed another because they believed they were justified in doing so.

[darmstadt]

Your can't force someone to be sterilized.

Even before we had the Human Rights Act it was a no go.

But it is legal for a man to undergo chemical castration in the UK so surely there could be some equivalent for women, no?

[MyUserName]

Why not hope that she rehabilitates herself, gets an education and spends the rest of her life doing good to try an atone for her terrible crime?

Fine, she can die lonely and screaming after that.

[Old Greg]

The woman is horrific, I hope she dies lonely, screaming and very soon.

Why not hope that she rehabilitates herself, gets an education and spends the rest of her life doing good to try an atone for her terrible crime?

[eek]

Yup that's the problem right there. Warn once then act. Decisively.

Slight problem with that argument. You can't remove children from a parent prior to them being born.

They do that in parts of china and it's rather frowned upon in the west

[vetran]

I doubt it will ever truly get through to her what she has done. I hope it does, for just one night.

[bless 'em all]

They are often warned over and over again that they will lose their kids if they......

Yup that's the problem right there. Warn once then act. Decisively.

[socialworker]

There is a whole horrible history in the West of sterilising people - we don't want to go down that road.

She would also be considered a danger to any kids she has partial responsibility for.

That means if she has a partner who has custody of his kids for a day or two, and the partner is a bit stupid/easily lead then she could be a problem.

No you cannot force anyone to be sterilised, that would be assault, neither did I suggest she be forced. It's just a personal opinion - as Mudskipper says, she is only really a danger to children she has care of. If she gets pregnant again you can be sure there will be a court order to remove the child at birth, providing the authorities dont lose track of her. Life outside prison will probably be more of a punishment than life inside. She is typical of a certain kind of dim, easily led woman that puts the latest bloke above her kids. Sadly not uncommon. They are often warned over and over again that they will lose their kids if they do not get rid of some abusing bloke, but ignore it.

[MyUserName]

The woman is horrific, I hope she dies lonely, screaming and very soon.