Reply to: The STOP button on web browsers

[Archangel]

SNAP!
Maybe we're at the same place.

Everyone should play the Geek Snap game it's fun. Perhaps a poll?

me 2

[ace00]

Nelson

Well spotted. But what version of IE do u have?

6.0.2900.2180 is winning by a distance.

[crack_ho]

Ha Ha - in the style of Ralph from the Simpsons.

We still have Lotus Notes R7 (2006)

My previous client co had a 10Base2 LAN.

Nelson

[DaveB]

Chef clicks Help > About Internet Explorer

6.0.2900.2180

ho hum, that's what kind of day it's going to be today then

WHS

[ace00]

Chef clicks Help > About Internet Explorer

6.0.2900.2180

ho hum, that's what kind of day it's going to be today then

SNAP!
Maybe we're at the same place.

Everyone should play the Geek Snap game it's fun. Perhaps a poll?

[chef]

But frankly, if you're using IE 6 you get what you deserve. Even Microsoft have trouble supporting IE 6 on their own site nowadays .....and now even MS accept that what it did was wrong and that it is generally a pile of fail.

If you have any choice, throw it in the toilet. If you don't, tough - ask your client why they force you to rely on antiquated and broken technology that even its creator has pretty much disowned.

Chef clicks Help > About Internet Explorer

6.0.2900.2180

ho hum, that's what kind of day it's going to be today then

[ace00]

.........- ask your client why they force you to rely on antiquated and broken technology that even its creator has pretty much disowned.

Ha Ha - in the style of Ralph from the Simpsons.

We still have Lotus Notes R7 (2006)

My previous client co had a 10Base2 LAN.

[d000hg]

But this is Windows, where you often have to reboot the computer to kill a misbehaving app.

I hibernate my PC, which I use 12+ hours a day for software development, internet and games, every night and haven't rebooted it for weeks. I also have no AV software (I do have firewall). It runs smoothly and without crashing... Outlook sometimes dies because it doesn't like gmail but otherwise the OS is remarkably stable.

[NickFitz]

The "Stop" button, which originated long before Microsoft had ever even made a web browser, will indeed stop all pending HTTP requests by the browser. Though not necessarily if it's a Microsoft browser, as MS (as usual) knew better than everybody else - or thought they did.

If, however, you have allowed a Java applet to download and get to the initialisation phase, that will then be doing its own thing on a distinct thread spawned by the browser process, for such content runs in a plugin, which is an executable external to the browser. If you're quick enough, and on a slow enough site, you may be able to go into whatever the task manager might be on your system, kill the Java process for the plugin, and see the browser carry on loading all the other assets on the page.

I suggest this experiment not because it's a worthwhile use of your time, but because it helps to illustrate that not only do browsers run HTTP requests for assets such as images, scripts, stylesheets, and plugin content like Flash and Java in parallel and asynchronously, but also that plugin content that relies on an external executable will have to spawn a child process that isn't under the full control of the browser process. When such content makes its own HTTP requests, it gets even murkier.

Hitting the "Stop" button, though it may stop the requests over which the browser has control, can't stop the operating system from executing spawned processes, nor prevent those processes from performing their own HTTP traffic.

But frankly, if you're using IE 6 you get what you deserve. Even Microsoft have trouble supporting IE 6 on their own site nowadays - there was an embarrassing incident the other week where the MS home page wouldn't render correctly, and also caused a script error. IE 6 is due for the graveyard. It never worked properly in the first place, MS conned people into thinking that what it did was correct, and now even MS accept that what it did was wrong and that it is generally a pile of fail.

If you have any choice, throw it in the toilet. If you don't, tough - ask your client why they force you to rely on antiquated and broken technology that even its creator has pretty much disowned.

[Cliphead]

But this is Windows, where you often have to reboot the computer to kill a misbehaving app.

So true

[chicane]

Use "kill" and nuke the bl@@dy thing

But this is Windows, where you often have to reboot the computer to kill a misbehaving app.

[SantaClaus]

The Stop button is for numpties.

Use "kill" and nuke the bl@@dy thing

[minestrone]

Does anyone actually use java in browsers anymore? the only time I see it is crappy time management systems and the like used by company intranets.

I am having real issues with IE8, more than 5 tabs on a window and it really struggles. On both XP and Vista.

[MPwannadecentincome]

What it seems to do is to freeze the browser for ages, then continue loading the page. Then again I'm using IE 6.x right now so that's probably it. Although it doesn't really work with firefox either, especially if Java's involved.

If the java is doing something I don't think the stop button will do anything, it was designed to 'stop' HTTP traffic between the browser session and the web server, so IE has no control over what java is communicating.

[d000hg]

It normally works for me, though IE6 isn't a good measure of anything.