Reply to: Forced to lie!

[Ivor Bigun]

......I have since learnt that I'm the only one being kept on (- yay for me, I agree)
BUT one of the chaps asked me this morning if I'd heard about any extensions, I had to say no.
I really didn't like lying to him and its not my place to tell him what's going on, i just feel really bad about not telling him the truth.

Methinks you answered correctly.
You haven't heard about any extensions for HIM

[BrilloPad]

I'm not really happy about this, but I know its the way of the contracting world.
There are 3 of us on a short term project, I was asked over a week ago if I'd stay on til May, I said yes and was told not to mention it to the other two chaps as there was not enough budget for all 3 of us.
I have since learnt that I'm the only one being kept on (- yay for me, I agree)
BUT one of the chaps asked me this morning if I'd heard about any extensions, I had to say no.
I really didn't like lying to him and its not my place to tell him what's going on, i just feel really bad about not telling him the truth.

I just needed to whinge about this and I know that a lot of you will laugh and just say I'm being a bit daft

Wait untl the other 2 are gone : then demand a big rise to stay.

HTH

[Not So Wise]

What nobody has twigged...

... all three of you have been told the same thing and you're all out. But giving it 100% in the meantime.

The other person was just sounding you out.

Actually once had situation like Pogle described and the "truth" was pretty close to what you say, though was client trying to force though rate cuts instead of outright termination

Unfortunately for client all 4 of us were "members" of the "Friday afternoon drinks session" and the truth came out then. Because we knew it was just due to the accountants trying to run the show (instead of actual lack of cash) we ganged up on client and actually managed to turn a rate cut into an rate increase after threatening a group walk out due to client's dishonesty and undermining "team spirit"

Ahh the good old days

Since then prefer to keep a policy of being honest with follow contractors on a gig, because even though they are competition they are not normally trying to screw their follow contractors, unlike clients/agents

Plus you never know when you might end up on another gig with them…or even more importantly have them interviewing you for a new gig

[NotAllThere]

ok I'll give it a go. Just hope the little blighters dont ask me

'what are those two dogs doing grandad ?'

Two dogs fighting.

[Bagpuss]

Christianity is only form of clandestine global evil with Santa Claus.

[BrollyBonce]

I think that applies to all religons dosent it?

Nope.

There's no lies in the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (all praise His Noodly Goodness).

[pleomax]

BGG,
Aww, that's sad, telling lies is the cornerstone of global clandestine evil, sorry I mean't Christianity

I think that applies to all religons dosent it?

[Turion]

There are 3 of us on a short term project, I was asked over a week ago if I'd stay on til May, I said yes and was told not to mention it to the other two chaps as they're keeping me on cos i'm cheapI just needed to whinge about this and I know that a lot of you will laugh and just say I'm being a bit daft

[dinker]

You could never join the Labour Party.

[realityhack]

Islam is very clear on the severity of lying. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said in a famous Hadith that the act which leads to the fire of Hell is lying.
Moreover, Islam abhors all forms of lying; a small lie or a big lie. Once a person in the presence of the Prophet wanted to call a small child nearby to him and told the child that he had something for him. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) told the man that if he didn’t give something to the child, he would be a liar. In other words, lying in its smallest form too is a sin in Islam.

Fantastic! Why hasn't this information been more publicised? That would solve all sorts of problems, including but not limited to:

Police officer: Tell the truth now, is that a bomb in your rucksack?
Muslim extremist: Ach... I must not lie... Yes, yes officer it is. Sigh.

[Foxy Moron]

All these lies! Lies breed lies,

No Father Christmas, that must be a lie!

i can't believe anything any of you say anymore. It's just a web of deceit.

[EternalOptimist]

There are no "Tooth Fairies" either.

this gets worse

[EternalOptimist]

lying is the cornerstone of contracting.

Its the clients job to lie to the agent about how many jobs they have and agencies
Its the clients job to lie to the contractor about having a full spec and workspace
Its the agents job to lie to the client about market conditions , rates and supply
Its the agents job to lie to the contractor about how good the job is and what the client offers
Its the contractors job to lie to the agent about other offers and interviews
Its the contractors job to lie to the client about previous experience and suitability

[DaveB]

Good point, i could actually be a 63 year old male machine operative from Shropshire who likes to pretend he's a contractor.

AndyW? I thought you got banned?

[cailin maith]

Friend of mine and his Mrs resolved to avoid telling the kids about Santa and all that make believe.

Hence, when they were just starting to talk and Xmas came around, the family had a proper chat and it was explained to them.

Doesn't mean they don't get xmas pressies or enjoy xmas any less, but it does mean the parents don't have to fill their heads with make believe.

I think it's kinda sad....

Kids should be able to have a bit of make believe, it doesn't hurt them.

anyway, thats just my tuppence worth.