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    #11
    Originally posted by Pogle View Post
    I'm not really happy about this, but I know its the way of the contracting world.
    There are 3 of us on a short term project, I was asked over a week ago if I'd stay on til May, I said yes and was told not to mention it to the other two chaps as there was not enough budget for all 3 of us.
    I have since learnt that I'm the only one being kept on (- yay for me, I agree)
    BUT one of the chaps asked me this morning if I'd heard about any extensions, I had to say no.
    I really didn't like lying to him and its not my place to tell him what's going on, i just feel really bad about not telling him the truth.

    I just needed to whinge about this and I know that a lot of you will laugh and just say I'm being a bit daft
    Tell him he should be asking the person you report to?
    You can lead a fool to wisdom but you can't make him think.

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      #12
      It's a fair comment Pogle, and never a nice position to be in, agreed.

      Personally, (and I hate lying), I'd have said :

      Other Chap : "Have you heard anything about contract extensions ?"

      BGG : "I'm sorry, but I cannot comment on that issue"

      You wouldn't have lied, and at the same, haven't told him anything.
      Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

      C.S. Lewis

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        #13
        Question:

        If you lie to others but you dont have intention to hurt any body and your just lieing because you know if you tell the truth either your gonna get in to trouble or people will misunderstand you so does that get counted as a lie and will you get punish [but your not doing any harm by not telling].


        Answer:


        Islam is very clear on the severity of lying. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said in a famous Hadith that the act which leads to the fire of Hell is lying.
        Moreover, Islam abhors all forms of lying; a small lie or a big lie. Once a person in the presence of the Prophet wanted to call a small child nearby to him and told the child that he had something for him. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) told the man that if he didn’t give something to the child, he would be a liar. In other words, lying in its smallest form too is a sin in Islam.


        HTH

        Hell and damnation awaits, what use is a renewal, when you consider that?

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          #14
          Integrity is one thing you should never compromise. You should have told your colleague the truth.

          He could then have sabotaged the project and bad mouthed you to the client which would have resulted in all three of you being sacked and a replacement being brought in. You would have been so angry that you would have been shaking, leading you to have a major smash on the motorway on the way home, hubby would blame you which is the last thing you need and the arguments would be titanic leading to divorce proceedings and loss of the house. The guinea pigs would be thrown onto the street to fend for themselves.


          on second thoughts, who comes first, the colleague or the guinea pigs ?




          (\__/)
          (>'.'<)
          ("")("") Born to Drink. Forced to Work

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            #15
            One little lie though could lead to habitual lieing. Lieing for fun, for recreation, even lieing for kicks. Tell him he's going to be renewed! You might as well, you dirty liar!

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              #16
              I think next time my customer tells me not to mention it to the rest of the team, I'll say "I wont mention it to them, but if they ask me a direct question I wont lie".

              Don’t worry I'll be off to confession at the earliest opportunity - honest!
              I'm sorry, but I'll make no apologies for this

              Pogle is awarded +5 Xeno Geek Points.
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                #17
                Originally posted by Board Game Geek View Post
                It's a fair comment Pogle, and never a nice position to be in, agreed.

                Personally, (and I hate lying), I'd have said :

                Other Chap : "Have you heard anything about contract extensions ?"

                BGG : "I'm sorry, but I cannot comment on that issue"

                You wouldn't have lied, and at the same, haven't told him anything.
                My take is that with the above scenario you were supressing the truth - you did know as you had been informed therefore that is a distortion of reality and therefore a lie.

                Would it have been better to say - you should ask X about the situation , as he seems to know the situtation - after all what if Mr X is being untruthful himself ?

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                  #18
                  would you ever tell a fib Alf ?
                  (\__/)
                  (>'.'<)
                  ("")("") Born to Drink. Forced to Work

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Pogle View Post
                    I think next time my customer tells me not to mention it to the rest of the team, I'll say "I wont mention it to them, but if they ask me a direct question I wont lie".

                    Don’t worry I'll be off to confession at the earliest opportunity - honest!
                    Its not too late to redeem yourslef by saying to the person - why dont you speak to Mr X to confirm the situation ?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by AlfredJPruffock View Post
                      Its not too late to redeem yourslef by saying to the person - why dont you speak to Mr X to confirm the situation ?
                      Oh I've already suggested that to him.
                      I'm sorry, but I'll make no apologies for this

                      Pogle is awarded +5 Xeno Geek Points.
                      CUK University Challenge Champions 2010
                      CUK University Challenge Champions 2012

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