Renting accomodation on the mainland

[tim123]

Not all European apartments - the Swiss apartments won't have lightbulb sockets, but you get a fully fitted kitchen, usually including a dishwasher.
And a laundry room (most likely shared).

Swedish apartments are also fully fitted (mine even had an option of a dishwasher), but you often have to wait on a list for three years before you get one :-(

tim

[tim123]

Can't face another year of hotels and so I'm flat hunting in DE.

Some of the agencies are wanting up to 150% of a months rental as commission for finding somewhere and I resent giving that much cash to anyone with 'agent' in their job title.

Anyone found a better way of finding somewhere?

TIA

PL

This is normal, that's how it works. in DE.

Usually, it's 20% for a one month rental and then 15% for each month thereafter, though that can differ from agent to agent. The 150% is a maximum that they are legally allowed to charge for *everything* that they ever do for you in respect of one rented property (though this percentage seems to vary by Land).

I like the Germany system, in the UK you will invariably get a bill of several 100 pounds for "checks" each time you re-new, they may not charge these fees in Germany. Also the fact that they are directly "working for you" rather than the landlord means that they (usually) try harder (this latter rule does not apply in Munich)

tim

[Tarquin Farquhar]

Thanks all.

The local rag has an online version with a rentals section but it's mostly the agencies advertising.

I have seen a couple of hotel_apartments but they seemed pretty pricey TBH.

Maybe I'm being naive in my expectations. I was hoping to pay slightly less than I do for the 12 nights I hotel it at the mo.

TBH I'd guess that an apartment would be just about even compared to only 12 nights hotel per month. A serviced apartment will probably cost more but will be more convenient without the "Magnificent Seven" three hundred hotel rooms feeling.

[Pondlife]

Thanks all.

The local rag has an online version with a rentals section but it's mostly the agencies advertising.

I have seen a couple of hotel_apartments but they seemed pretty pricey TBH.

Maybe I'm being naive in my expectations. I was hoping to pay slightly less than I do for the 12 nights I hotel it at the mo.

[alreadypacked]

Can't face another year of hotels and so I'm flat hunting in DE.

Some of the agencies are wanting up to 150% of a months rental as commission for finding somewhere and I resent giving that much cash to anyone with 'agent' in their job title.

Anyone found a better way of finding somewhere?

TIA

PL

Do you have any contacts in some larger companies, I got my last flat in DE from someone who was leaving the area. It was posted on an internal web site. Had to buy the kitchen, but it was not that expensive.

[NotAllThere]

...I second what darmstadt says: if you are unfamiliar with European flats you may not have imagined what "unfurnished" can mean. Like, not only no lampshades but no bulbs and even no light bulb sockets, just bare wires.

Not all European apartments - the Swiss apartments won't have lightbulb sockets, but you get a fully fitted kitchen, usually including a dishwasher.
And a laundry room (most likely shared).

[darmstadt]

Don't forget that you can also rent a fully furnished apartment (I know of some hotels that do this) where no deposit is needed, you just pay weekls/monthly and a cleaner is included. The only extra fee is when you move out for a thorough clean-up, usually around €120. There also apartment hotels, I've just spent 2 years in one, where you get a small kitchen included (not as good as the Marriott ones in the USA though.) These type of hotels tend to have no bar, etc but quite often provide breakfast. I spent nearly 3 years working in Sauerland and stayed in 3 different hotels but rather than your normal hotel one was a Gastätte which was basically some rooms above a pub. Walk in after work and be greeted with a beer and then excellent food and get to know the locals. The second was a hotel which was run by a famous TV cook but was quite exclusive but I used to get an excellent room for a minimal price and treated very well. The third was in the middle of nowhere but fantastic views from my room which was very large with a nice balcony so in the summer I could just relx. Food once again was excellent. The boss gave me a bottle of Champagne at Christmas because I was a regular guest and always paid the same rate.

Have a look for some of these places, you might be surprised plus you'll get to know the country and people and be pleasantly surprised

[expat]

Hotels are dirt cheap in Germany, check out Guest houses.

But the OP's point was "Can't face another year of hotels" not "can't afford it".

Off-season, and depending on area, you could cut a deal with a Ferienwohnung for a good price on the grounds that they wouldn't be renting it out anyway.

[BlasterBates]

Hotels are dirt cheap in Germany, check out Guest houses.

[BlasterBates]

...and also in the Kitchen....

[expat]

Can't face another year of hotels and so I'm flat hunting in DE.

Some of the agencies are wanting up to 150% of a months rental as commission for finding somewhere and I resent giving that much cash to anyone with 'agent' in their job title.

Anyone found a better way of finding somewhere?

TIA

PL

Ask around your new client.

OT and off wall but: buy a camper wagon (I have seen it done).
Buy a flat and rent it out to contractors when you're not there.
Specify location on here and see if anyone knows anyone.

I second what darmstadt says: if you are unfamiliar with European flats you may not have imagined what "unfurnished" can mean. Like, not only no lampshades but no bulbs and even no light bulb sockets, just bare wires.

[darmstadt]

I've never used an agent (Mäkler) here due to that. Look in the papers for private renters and you'll even find them on immobilienscout24.de. You will have to pay up to 3 months deposit which goes into a special bank acount which no-one can touch until you leave whereupon you will get it back. There will also be certain clauses in the contract such as you'll either have to decorate when moving in or out. The apartment might also be unfurnished and by that I mean such things as no bathroom fittings, no kitchen fittings, etc.

[ThomasSoerensen]

I had to pay a fee of 2 months rent plus VAT to the agent. I agree that it is very annoying.

Makes you not move aound too often.

[Pondlife]

Can't face another year of hotels and so I'm flat hunting in DE.

Some of the agencies are wanting up to 150% of a months rental as commission for finding somewhere and I resent giving that much cash to anyone with 'agent' in their job title.

Anyone found a better way of finding somewhere?

TIA

PL