Reply to: The Catholic Poverty Trap

[DaveB]

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Make Room! Make Room!

[ThomasSoerensen]

With the capacity to support 5 billion

I predict that the planet will not have 10 billion people while onl being able to support 5 billion.

This is a self-fixing problem. Not a nice way to fix it though.

[NotAllThere]

I rather gathered that the protestants were rather more tolerant of intellectual endeavour.

Tyndale wanted to get the bible to the masses so they could hold the bishops to account over what _they_ said was contained within its pages. He was executed under the orders the Catholic church.

[Diver]

hey now dont be talking tulipe to me noddy. Theres plenty of historical records.
The dark ages refers to a move away from classical intellectuallism and into an age of superstition and ignorance.
I am not saying the church caused it, they just presided over it

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[EternalOptimist]

The 'dark' in Dark Ages is a metaphor for missing historical records; and is regarded as the time between the fall of the Roman Empire and the construction of the great northern European Gothic cathedrals around the time of the Normans.

hey now dont be talking sh1te to me noddy. Theres plenty of historical records.
The dark ages refers to a move away from classical intellectuallism and into an age of superstition and ignorance.
I am not saying the church caused it, they just presided over it

[BrilloPad]

It annoys me when I see an Institution with the power and influence to do great good in this world, abuse the very people that need their help the most.

Could say the same about the UK government

[NotAllThere]

Originally Posted by NotAllThere View Post
Ah, the law of (foreseeable) unforeseen consequences. Just like the Uk goverment.

That's just nonsense.

Why is it nonsense? Or do you really believe that the UK govt have managed to get joined up thinking?

[Xenophon]

The 'dark' in Dark Ages is a metaphor for missing historical records; and is regarded as the time between the fall of the Roman Empire and the construction of the great northern European Gothic cathedrals around the time of the Normans.

What with all the sensitive information that goes missing in this era, I wonder if it will be remembered as the Incompetent Ages...

[NoddY]

There was a time when this country was run by the church, from top to bottom. That period is known as the dark ages

The 'dark' in Dark Ages is a metaphor for missing historical records; and is regarded as the time between the fall of the Roman Empire and the construction of the great northern European Gothic cathedrals around the time of the Normans.

[Ruprect]

Ah, the law of (foreseeable) unforeseen consequences. Just like the Uk goverment.

That's just nonsense.

The point was not that nasty athiests do bad things,

That was how it read

rather that it isn't just the prerogative of the church!

No, rather than allow contraception to go some way to allieviating an AIDS pandemic in Africa, it is "God's will" that they die...

[Diver]

If the Catholics where to stop having kids the Muslims will have it covered. No worries, we're heading for 10 billion double quick.

With the capacity to support 5 billion

[ace00]

If the Catholics where to stop having kids the Muslims will have it covered. No worries, we're heading for 10 billion double quick.

[NotAllThere]

Which point I fully agree with.

[Diver]

Ah, the law of (foreseeable) unforeseen consequences. Just like the Uk goverment.

The point was not that nasty athiests do bad things, rather that it isn't just the prerogative of the church!



Indeed. My mother was most surprised to find that she was three months pregnant with me, as she was using an IUD. That was found embedded in the placenta when I was born...

My point is that the Church has an unfair influence on the poorer people due to religious constraints and the fear and stigma of excommunication in a catholic community.

[NotAllThere]

Ah, the law of (foreseeable) unforeseen consequences. Just like the Uk goverment.

The point was not that nasty athiests do bad things, rather that it isn't just the prerogative of the church!

...most forms of contraception do not render conception impossible.

Indeed. My mother was most surprised to find that she was three months pregnant with me, as she was using an IUD. That was found embedded in the placenta when I was born...