Reply to: Kiss of death

[ChimpMaster]

No matter what you think or try to do, the fact that you were asked says a lot.
It means they are thinking you are replacable and they want to lower costs.
They are just sounding you out first - your choice of course.

Actually it could mean the opposite - that they think you are irreplaceable and don't ever want to lose you. Also they see it as a priviledge that you're being asked to join their ranks, and hence would only ask if they value you enough.

[Ivor Bigun]

Two weeks after being offered an extension into 2009, I just got asked if I'd be interested in going permie.

I think that may have made my mind up about whether to take the renewal or not...

No matter what you think or try to do, the fact that you were asked says a lot.
It means they are thinking you are replacable and they want to lower costs.
They are just sounding you out first - your choice of course.

[kali]

You could always take all the comments out...

Not forgetting to run a search and replace on all meaningful variable names...

e.g "watchdog" becomes "a1" etc



btw whats wrong with snowballs anyway?

[Tensai]

You could always take all the comments out...

Now that's an idea. Evil. I like it.

I suspect they'll wait until the project is largely complete so there's a clean break.... but this clearly creates a disincentive to be efficient surely? Goes against the grain a bit, but needs must in the current arid contracting climate.

[Moscow Mule]

This large IB is doing the same conversions. They seem to think it's a very privileged thing to be asked to join their company

Find out what they're offering - it might be worth it once you add in all the benefits.

Assuming you pay for Private healthcare, have a mortgage and a pension of course.

[ChimpMaster]

This large IB is doing the same conversions. They seem to think it's a very privileged thing to be asked to join their company

[chicane]

Ditto. VeryLargeClientCo are adopting a "replace contractors with permies" policy across the board.

They're trying to do this from the very top of the management ladder here. The manager of this department is pushing back strongly on the basis that contractors and permies have different mindsets and therefore fulfil different requirements.

He's arguing that contractors tend to be better at fast delivery without faffing around, and permies are better suited to long-term infrastructure development and weaker at delivery. I'd tend to agree.

[Tensai]

Ditto. VeryLargeClientCo are adopting a "replace contractors with permies" policy across the board. Plan is to offer a permie role to the competant contractors and ditch the fodder. So I'm real trouble

Plan is to make myself absolutely indispensible. Any suggestions? Currently deleting all the project documentation so it's all in my head only

[realityhack]

I've been sounded out here - will they still respect me in the morning?

Looking around on jobswerve with 7 weeks to go. When I refuse, I'll have to train my (permie) replacement. Joy.

[BrilloPad]

There's three of us Contractors where I am. The other two have been sounded out for 'conversion'. I haven't! Don't know why.

Because they respect you?

[Alf W]

There's three of us Contractors where I am. The other two have been sounded out for 'conversion'. I haven't! Don't know why.

[Masher]

Last year I rejected an "offer" to go permanent. Subsequently I had to show my replacement the ropes. He started on Monday and ran away midday Friday saying that there was too much SAS Development. The role had been advertised as "SAS Developer"

[NickFitz]

There are good rates going for php if you're in the right place at the right time, with the right degree of ability.

Yahoo! uses PHP...

[chicane]

Trouble is php rates are rubbish at the best of times

There are good rates going for php if you're in the right place at the right time, with the right degree of ability.

[OwlHoot]

Oh dear. Had a little search on Jobswerve this evening, it's a bit quiet out there and rates seem a bit tulip compared to last time I was looking

I'm OK so far, touch wood; but if there isn't enough perl or .Net around when I start looking, it may mean having to fall back on the doomsday option of including php in the search.

Trouble is php rates are rubbish at the best of times, and I'd be practically paying the client to work if it's as bad now as people are saying. (I haven't dared check jobsworth for months.)