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Previously on "Thud thud thud thud thud thud"

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  • beercohol
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    "Assembly" has been hijacked!

    What gets me is that Microsoft writes another layer of abstraction that is a runtime environment (.Net framework) that runs in the OS runtime environment (User-mode Windows), that runs on top of the Windows Kernel which talks to the HAL, that finally then runs on the hardware...

    ... and they call it an Assembly! How dare they!

    Now the word is used to mean two complete opposites, and you watch the younger generation turning up for work-experience with no clue on the real meaning of 'Assembly'.

    Never mind. I can fight back. Every meeting with the coders, I get to laugh each time someone says ".Net assembly". When they ask, I say, "If you don't get it, then don't worry!".

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  • malvolio
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    For x = 0 to x+1
    Print "RA"x" EQU "x;
    Next x

    or something?

    (I could do it in COBOL, but that would take a few more lines...)

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  • bogeyman
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    Originally posted by zeitghost View Post
    That's the noise of me banging my head on the desk...

    What's so difficult about

    RA0 EQU 0
    RA1 EQU 1

    etc.?
    I give up.

    Register equates ain't what they used to be?

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  • NickFitz
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    I miss assembly language... haven't done anything much with it since writing some fast graphics, animation and 3D rendering routines for the ARM on the Archimedes in the early nineties.

    How are the mighty fallen...

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  • Moscow Mule
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    Originally posted by Churchill View Post
    Because how can you expect to be a real engineer if you don't fully understand the processes involved?

    To the best of my knowledge, .NEt won't run on a PIC.
    Nor will most of the programs written by students for them!

    Why can't it be done in an emulator? Would save a lot of faff and you still learn the principles.

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  • Moscow Mule
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    I seem to remember those from my uni days (Electronic Engineering).

    Good job I don't have anything to do with them these days...

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  • Churchill
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    Originally posted by zeitghost
    It is, as the dog said, an engineering degree...

    We engineers (an me in particular) seem to spend quite a lot of time bit fiddling in assembler.

    Though it must be said that the PIC is a curiously unfriendly device with a peculiarly odd assembly language syntax.
    I know...

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  • Churchill
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    Originally posted by Moscow Mule View Post
    Why is this stuff still being taught? Or is the course title something like "Really old computer systems and how to cock about with them"?
    Because how can you expect to be a real engineer if you don't fully understand the processes involved?

    To the best of my knowledge, .NEt won't run on a PIC.

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  • Moscow Mule
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    Why is this stuff still being taught? Or is the course title something like "Really old computer systems and how to cock about with them"?

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  • xoggoth
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    I think it is some sort of assembler code. Early man used to use that sort of thing on their abacuses.

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  • snaw
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    Originally posted by zeitghost View Post
    Thud thud thud thud thud thud
    Sounds more like the start of Apocalypse Now to me.

    Da Da LA Da Daa. This is the End ...

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  • oracleslave
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    Originally posted by zeitghost View Post
    That's the noise of me banging my head on the desk...

    What's so difficult about

    RA0 EQU 0
    RA1 EQU 1

    etc.?
    I have no idea what you are on about. Doesn't mean it's not simple though.

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  • zeitghost
    started a topic Thud thud thud thud thud thud

    Thud thud thud thud thud thud

    That's the noise of me banging my head on the desk...

    What's so difficult about

    RA0 EQU 0
    RA1 EQU 1

    etc.?
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