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Previously on "Don't screw with the taxman"

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  • WTFH
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    Speaking of incels, from the world of "If you don't like our country and don't want to abide by our laws, you shouldn't be here", Farage in trainers: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...g-country.html

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  • WTFH
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    Turns out he’s a very alpha male who is triggered by Elmo…

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  • NotAllThere
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    I'm surprised you're so desperate to get them locked up. Isn't seizing their ill-gotten gains sufficient for you?

    Anyway, I had a look around as I too was puzzled. You might think it's laziness, but it turns out it is standard practice to pursue tax evaders and tax fraudsters through the civil courts. And it is because the standards of proof are lower. But don't worry about it, there's enough criminal charges for the time being.

    Sure, the evasion/fraud case would normally be brought by HMRC but there's no technical reason why it can't be brought by the police The idea is to regain the money for the public purse. I guess HMRC are too busy pursuing contractors over a few thousand to worry about people who may have defrauded the exchequer of a few million.

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post

    Or are they freeing up resources for other investigations?
    Or they can't be arsed providing enough evidence to pass CPS scrutiny.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post

    So the police are being lazy?
    Or are they freeing up resources for other investigations?

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post

    A criminal case requires a higher standard of proof.

    No doubt that will fit nicely into your conspiracy theory. Alternatively, it's pragmatism. D&C Police feel they can win this civil case, get the money into the public treasury, without going to the expense of a criminal trial.
    So the police are being lazy?

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post

    Indeed.
    The Judge doesn't laugh when the Police do it....

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by Fraidycat View Post
    "Devon and Cornwall Police have started a civil claim"

    Why are the police starting a civil claim. Why not criminal?

    And why are the Police doing it, and not HMRC?
    A criminal case requires a higher standard of proof.

    No doubt that will fit nicely into your conspiracy theory. Alternatively, it's pragmatism. D&C Police feel they can win this civil case, get the money into the public treasury, without going to the expense of a criminal trial.

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by Fraidycat View Post
    "Devon and Cornwall Police have started a civil claim"

    Why are the police starting a civil claim. Why not criminal?

    And why are the Police doing it, and not HMRC?
    Indeed.

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by Fraidycat View Post
    Controversial influencer Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan are free to leave Romania, a Bucharest court has ruled.

    They had previously been banned from leaving the country where they are awaiting trial, indicted on charges of human trafficking, rape and forming a criminal gang to sexually exploit women. They deny all allegations against them.

    The decision to allow freedom of movement in the EU is not final and can be appealed.

    The brothers said the move represented a "significant victory and major step forward" in their ongoing case.

    Posting on X, a platform from which he was previously banned, Andrew Tate said: "The sham case is falling apart."
    That must make you happy.

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  • Fraidycat
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    Controversial influencer Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan are free to leave Romania, a Bucharest court has ruled.

    They had previously been banned from leaving the country where they are awaiting trial, indicted on charges of human trafficking, rape and forming a criminal gang to sexually exploit women. They deny all allegations against them.

    The decision to allow freedom of movement in the EU is not final and can be appealed.

    The brothers said the move represented a "significant victory and major step forward" in their ongoing case.

    Posting on X, a platform from which he was previously banned, Andrew Tate said: "The sham case is falling apart."

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  • Fraidycat
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    "Devon and Cornwall Police have started a civil claim"

    Why are the police starting a civil claim. Why not criminal?

    And why are the Police doing it, and not HMRC?
    Last edited by Fraidycat; 8 July 2024, 14:42.

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  • vetran
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    who cares if he goes to prison for tax evasion or other reasons, the fellow prisoners will sort it out.

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  • SueEllen
    started a topic Don't screw with the taxman

    Don't screw with the taxman

    If they can't get him for anything else they will do him for tax evasion.

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/andrew-ta...tax-avoidance/

    ‘Brazen’ Andrew Tate and brother Tristan accused of failing to pay tax on £21m revenue from online business

    Devon and Cornwall Police have started a civil claim against the two social media influencers, as well as a third person referred to as J.


    Speaking at Westminster Magistrates Court, Sarah Clarke KC for Devon and Cornwall Police said: "Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate are serial tax and VAT evaders.

    "They, in particular Andrew Tate, are brazen about it."

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