Next Family Car - Petrol of Diesel ?

[fiisch]

Don't PCP rates take into account forecasted depreciation? Leasing companies must have a good idea of expected depreciation for diesels. It's hard to see any legislation or regulations coming in that would cause the value to fall off a cliff.

Ordinarily, but the used market has gone a bit bonkers over COVID so sometimes those forecasts are a bit awry. Doesn't need to be legislation against diesel - if EV ownership becomes (more) attractive, how many buyers will there be for a diesel in 3-5 years time?

[Gibbon]

Don't PCP rates take into account forecasted depreciation? Leasing companies must have a good idea of expected depreciation for diesels. It's hard to see any legislation or regulations coming in that would cause the value to fall off a cliff.

Its lack of customer demand.

[edison]

Petrol sounds nicer, is cleaner, and the power delivery is more "exciting".

Diesel will give better mpg and cheaper to run, usually sounds like a tractor, and delivers the power in a lazy lump.

A few years ago, buying a big SUV where sexy noises and driving experience weren't at the top of the reasons for buying, I went with diesel - X3 m40d - which I was very impressed with. Great engine, 60 came up in about 5 seconds and more than enough grunt for the road and a car of its size, but would still manage 40mpg on a run.

However, now I'd have to consider the depreciation factor - if you're buying, I suspect with the way the world is going, diesel is not going to be the fuel of choice going forwards, so I'd expect a diesel to depreciate far more than the equivalent petrol.

Tough one - in your shoes, I'd probably ditch the SUV and buy the petrol-powered car equivalent - A6 Avant, Volvo V60, BMW 5 series, something of that ilk.

If I had to have an SUV, I'd probably still go diseasal purely because I couldn't stomach 20mpg in something that wasn't a supercar, but possibly on a PCP/similar deal so I had some insurance against unforeseen depreciation. (Ironically, this worked quite well for me buying a (used) EV, which is looking very likely to be worth a lot less than the balloon at the end of 3 years so will be going back).

Don't PCP rates take into account forecasted depreciation? Leasing companies must have a good idea of expected depreciation for diesels. It's hard to see any legislation or regulations coming in that would cause the value to fall off a cliff.

[fiisch]

Petrol sounds nicer, is cleaner, and the power delivery is more "exciting".

Diesel will give better mpg and cheaper to run, usually sounds like a tractor, and delivers the power in a lazy lump.

A few years ago, buying a big SUV where sexy noises and driving experience weren't at the top of the reasons for buying, I went with diesel - X3 m40d - which I was very impressed with. Great engine, 60 came up in about 5 seconds and more than enough grunt for the road and a car of its size, but would still manage 40mpg on a run.

However, now I'd have to consider the depreciation factor - if you're buying, I suspect with the way the world is going, diesel is not going to be the fuel of choice going forwards, so I'd expect a diesel to depreciate far more than the equivalent petrol.

Tough one - in your shoes, I'd probably ditch the SUV and buy the petrol-powered car equivalent - A6 Avant, Volvo V60, BMW 5 series, something of that ilk.

If I had to have an SUV, I'd probably still go diseasal purely because I couldn't stomach 20mpg in something that wasn't a supercar, but possibly on a PCP/similar deal so I had some insurance against unforeseen depreciation. (Ironically, this worked quite well for me buying a (used) EV, which is looking very likely to be worth a lot less than the balloon at the end of 3 years so will be going back).

[milanbenes]

Also, if you buy one of the Skoda "Porsche" derivatives, many of the components will be compatible with your Audi TT thing that you have on order.

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very good :-)

Milan.

[WTFH]

I think you are right, and you repeat the same that somebody else said to me, it doesn't matter

I guess old habits die hard

and the answer is petrol

thanks,

Milan.

Also, if you buy one of the Skoda "Porsche" derivatives, many of the components will be compatible with your Audi TT thing that you have on order.

[Zigenare]

I think you are right, and you repeat the same that somebody else said to me, it doesn't matter

I guess old habits die hard

and the answer is petrol

thanks,

Milan.

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If you're not going to regularly do long journeys, get a petrol.

Hth.

[milanbenes]

I think you are right, and you repeat the same that somebody else said to me, it doesn't matter

I guess old habits die hard

and the answer is petrol

thanks,

Milan.

[edison]

If you're splashing out £70-100k on a new large German SUV like a BMW X5 or Audi Q7, the price of petrol or diesel is probably fairly low down on your considerations?

If it's for family trips and holidays then doesn't sound like you'll do a lot of miles. Save yourself a lot of money and buy a 1-2 year old petrol model with a warranty. That will dwarf any fuel price differential considerations.

[milanbenes]

well new

the budget isn't really the question, nor is the consumption

just can't decide whether to go back to diesel or stick with petrol

I guess it's a no brainer

but none of us a perfect are we

there is one doubt though, what if something silly happened with the price of petrol and not the price of diesel or vice versa during the coming years

so the doubt is more, which horse to back of the two

Milan.

[edison]

Are you buying it new/second hand? What's your budget?

[milanbenes]

it will be the family car, for away days and holidays

kind of car thinking of.... a German suv

not sure whether to slum and it and go back to diesel or stay with petrol

problems problems eh

Milan.

[ladymuck]

What kind of car are you looking for? What sort of driving will you do?

[Uncle Albert]

Diesel is still the current baddie so inevitably petrol will be found to be much worse in a couple of years and be mega-taxed.

But then again, I know nothing.

[milanbenes]

morning all,

I'm not interested in hybrid or battery power

for the next family car,

shall we get

Petrol

or

Diesel

Milan.