Reply to: How Slow Can You Go?

[vetran]

Jaywalking doesn't exist in the UK it is a US thing.

Basically if you aren't travelling by a mode of transport that needs a license you have priority over those that do on the roads.

it is a US thing and many other backward countries like Australia, Spain & Canada as a safety measure.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6251431.s...nd%20Australia.

Maybe we should reconsider, considering the stupidity I see exhibited by many pedestrians.

[vetran]

And?

It happens where ladymuck lives. It is mainly caused by congestion which is caused by things like accidents and road works not a 20mph speed limit.

I live on part of a road that has had a 20mph speed limit since I've lived on the road - it doesn't stop emergency vehicles using it and going faster.

A number of villages round here have 20mph areas and they have adjusted the road layout accordingly which increases congestion I can assure you that emergency vehicles are impacted considerably.

[SueEllen]

However when traffic is bunched up even on blues & twos they have to slow to a crawl.

And?

It happens where ladymuck lives. It is mainly caused by congestion which is caused by things like accidents and road works not a 20mph speed limit.

I live on part of a road that has had a 20mph speed limit since I've lived on the road - it doesn't stop emergency vehicles using it and going faster.

[SueEllen]

Jaywalking doesn't exist in the UK it is a US thing.

Basically if you aren't travelling by a mode of transport that needs a license you have priority over those that do on the roads.

[vetran]

A bit disingenuous to say emergency services will be slowed down. They can overtake and exceed the speed limit when on blues.

However when traffic is bunched up even on blues & twos they have to slow to a crawl.

[vetran]

[Gibbon]

A bit disingenuous to say emergency services will be slowed down. They can overtake and exceed the speed limit when on blues.

Yes, but normal NHS transport will be affected and a lot use taxis to areas not on a established route. I know this unfortunately.

[ladymuck]

Yes taxi fares will go up, already heard drivers bragging that 20mph is good for business.

Public transport and emergency services will be slowed down so fewer services and longer journey times, all for your benefit

A bit disingenuous to say emergency services will be slowed down. They can overtake and exceed the speed limit when on blues.

[ladymuck]

Most metered taxi fares are based on a combination of time and distance, so I can definitely see them going up.

[tazdevil]

Will taxi fares go up to cover increased journey time.
Will they need more NHS transport, school buses, community transport etc (these won't be in the extra 2 mins window) or will people at the first pickup have to get up at midnight?

Yes taxi fares will go up, already heard drivers bragging that 20mph is good for business.

Public transport and emergency services will be slowed down so fewer services and longer journey times, all for your benefit

[Lance]

So half the weight of a bus.


Have you ever cursed the hazards that are too stupid to recognise physics trumps a sense of entitlement? Most sensible people have.

you mean cyclists and pedestrians?

No. But I treat them as unpredictable hazards and assume they will do the dumbest things.

[Dactylion]

...thinking about it....maybe I'm just a tulip driver?

It's become self aware

[Gibbon]

Tourism will take a hit too, with people heading down to Somerset and beyond instead.

Will taxi fares go up to cover increased journey time.
Will they need more NHS transport, school buses, community transport etc (these won't be in the extra 2 mins window) or will people at the first pickup have to get up at midnight?

[LondonManc]

Tourism will take a hit too, with people heading down to Somerset and beyond instead.

[Paddy]

This is why my car got written off last Friday (before the national drop to 20mph but I was on a road which somehow got reduced a while ago).

Not the only reason, but I 'hit' an unexpected 20mph zone and lost my sense of road position and hit a parked car! Recovery driver said he's been picking up 2 to 3 cars a week in exactly the same spot since the 20mph sign had been put in.

And I nearly wiped out a traffic bollard last night. Coming into a roundabout (from a national speed limit road) there was a new 20mph sign a new 30pgh sign and the existing national speed limit sign. I was so focused on the signs I lost my road position concentration for a second and nearly swiped the road furniture. Luckily it was late and the road was quiet or could have had nasty results. One small roundabout; 3 speed limits!

...thinking about it....maybe I'm just a tulip driver?

I hope you sue the owner of the parked car.