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Previously on "Good news, Malaria vaccine deployed"

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post

    yep religion again but Israel can afford decent neo natal care. This is a very small minority of the population, its like finding out the Amish have a higher fertility rate.

    Africa's fertility rate does seem to be falling.

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...%20from%202020.

    India was dropping

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...fertility-rate

    China is on the up

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...fertility-rate

    The UK is on the way up again!
    Yep, check the demographic data and postulate why.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post

    Yep, this report from 2018 makes interesting reading, Ultra Orthodx Jews averaging 7.1 children per woman compared with 3.1 in the general population of Israel isn't because of the risk of Malaria.
    yep religion again but Israel can afford decent neo natal care. This is a very small minority of the population, its like finding out the Amish have a higher fertility rate.

    Africa's fertility rate does seem to be falling.

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...%20from%202020.

    India was dropping

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...fertility-rate

    China is on the up

    https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...fertility-rate

    The UK is on the way up again!

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post

    Totally, however plenty of cultural pressures not to give girls an education or to encourage them to become baby factories.
    Yep, this report from 2018 makes interesting reading, Ultra Orthodx Jews averaging 7.1 children per woman compared with 3.1 in the general population of Israel isn't because of the risk of Malaria.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Give the women all an education.

    It reduces the birth rate.
    Totally, however plenty of cultural pressures not to give girls an education or to encourage them to become baby factories.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    600k deaths compared to a birthrate of 140m - is that numerically very significant or not? Apparently the death rate is ~70m. Compounded, even 1% can be significant but there is also the factor that one reason people in poor nations have so many children is because of high mortality - if fewer children die, they wouldn't have as many.

    But then 600k as a percentage of the population in affected countries is also going to be more than 1%.
    Malaria isn't the only cause of infant death but it is a key one. 247 million sick is a lot of medical resource in developing countries.

    Try reading Gates notes on infant death and the steps forward in the last 20 years. Quite inspiring but also surprising how little they needed to change to halve the death rate.

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  • SueEllen
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    Give the women all an education.

    It reduces the birth rate.

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  • d000hg
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    600k deaths compared to a birthrate of 140m - is that numerically very significant or not? Apparently the death rate is ~70m. Compounded, even 1% can be significant but there is also the factor that one reason people in poor nations have so many children is because of high mortality - if fewer children die, they wouldn't have as many.

    But then 600k as a percentage of the population in affected countries is also going to be more than 1%.

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  • vetran
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    Good news The Gates Foundation is ahead of you!
    They already supply contraception and mosquito nets out of the cash from Gates and many other billionaires pockets.

    Malaria affected 247 million with 619,000 deaths

    https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-s...detail/malaria

    Now if the faith's could support barrier contraception and reducing offspring then we may have a chance.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/relig...n%20themselves.

    https://islamqa.info/en/answers/1349...large-families

    Historically Malaria has killed more people than all the wars put together. Its abolition will affect population growth so the massively positive effects of millions of poor little kids not dying of malaria will have to be managed by birth control.

    The effects of having so many sick from Malaria doesn't help countries advance.


    Last edited by vetran; 14 April 2023, 11:23.

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post

    If it's a toss up between paying to stop these poor nations over populating the world or paying to feed their ever increasing numbers which one would you suggest would be the most effective use of charity?
    Clearly caring for people who suffering is a priority but it's not a toss-up, both are quite affordable.

    And I'm not sure malaria is acting as significant a brake on population growth in those countries is it? I haven't seen any figures either way, you may have.

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    Are you going to pay to send contraceptives to people too poor to afford them? If it's an issue close to your heart, perhaps you should.
    If it's a toss up between paying to stop these poor nations over populating the world or paying to feed their ever increasing numbers which one would you suggest would be the most effective use of charity?

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    More importantly now that one of nature's weapons against overpopulation has been neutralised will people become more sensible about the number of offspring they bring into existence?
    Are you going to pay to send contraceptives to people too poor to afford them? If it's an issue close to your heart, perhaps you should.

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post

    I wonder how many brown envelopes were distributed to get that one through.
    Are you suggesting Matt Hancock was involved in the negotiations?

    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    will people become more sensible about the number of offspring they bring into existence?
    Can't wait to hear BoJo & Smogg's reaction to the idea of reducing the number of offspring.

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  • Zigenare
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    I wonder how many brown envelopes were distributed to get that one through.

    More importantly now that one of nature's weapons against overpopulation has been neutralised will people become more sensible about the number of offspring they bring into existence?

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  • vetran
    started a topic Good news, Malaria vaccine deployed

    Good news, Malaria vaccine deployed

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...a-vaccine.html

    Breakthrough malaria vaccine gets approved as Ghana rolls out 'world-changer' jab to fight mosquito-borne disease that kills a child every minute
    • The vaccine R21 has been approved by Ghana's Food and Drugs Authority
    • It was approved for those at highest risk of death - children aged 5 - 36 months
    • Due to a manufacturing partnership, 200million doses will be made annually

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