Originally posted by SueEllen
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Previously on "Our Father\Mother\Parent (delete as appropiate) who art in heaven?"
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Originally posted by vetran View Post
Your infant school obviously had advanced sex education covering genetics. We had to wait for secondary school to learn about what happens.
We did sex ed in junior school.
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostYeah I worked that out in infant school.
Blond person who worked as a carpenter in the sun in the Middle East.....
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Originally posted by vetran View Post
don't worry thanks to Sunday school I know Jesus wasn't Joseph's. Its obvious he wasn't white despite all the European art.
Blond person who worked as a carpenter in the sun in the Middle East.....
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Originally posted by darmstadt View PostWait until all these people moaning about it find out that Jesus was probably very dark skinned and a liberal and was born out of wedlock
Seems that they were married (at 14 so Mary was a late bloomer 5 years after Islam)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marria...ewish%20custom.
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Wait until all these people moaning about it find out that Jesus was probably very dark skinned and a liberal and was born out of wedlock
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Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
Look what white men did to Christianity...
For did not John Bale write: “For on a time when a Cardinall Bembus did move a question out of the Gospell, the Pope gave him a very contemptuous answer saying: ‘All ages can testifie enough howe profitable that fable of Christe hath ben to us and our companie.’”
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Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
Nah he was black - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...herts-53246221
(Unlike this effort there is actually a church in Oxford with very old stained glass windows which shows a black Jesus plus black and brown saints.)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3958241.stm
As light-hearted evidence that Jesus was black, it adds that he "called everybody 'brother', liked Gospel, and couldn't get a fair trial".
"The hair was the easiest - there's a reference in Paul which says it's disgraceful for a man to wear long hair, so it looks pretty sure that people of that period had to have reasonably short hair. The traditional depictions of Jesus with long flowing golden hair are probably inaccurate."
Deciding on skin colour was more difficult, though. But the earliest depictions of Jews, which date from the 3rd Century, are - as far as can be determined - dark-skinned.
"We do seem to have a relatively dark skinned Jesus. In contemporary parlance I think the safest thing is to talk about Jesus as 'a man of colour'." This probably means olive-coloured, he says.
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Originally posted by vetran View PostI was having a discussion with a friend who is of recent African extraction, religion was mentioned and he described Christianity as "the white mans god" and I went "what?" it was across Africa 450 years before Europe
For did not John Bale write: “For on a time when a Cardinall Bembus did move a question out of the Gospell, the Pope gave him a very contemptuous answer saying: ‘All ages can testifie enough howe profitable that fable of Christe hath ben to us and our companie.’”
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Originally posted by vetran View Post
Still white though surely he would be light brown (olive) being Jewish brought up in the area?
(Unlike this effort there is actually a church in Oxford with very old stained glass windows which shows a black Jesus plus black and brown saints.)
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I was having a discussion with a friend who is of recent African extraction, religion was mentioned and he described Christianity as "the white mans god" and I went "what?" it was across Africa 450 years before Europe
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Look at Leonardo's painting and John looks very trans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Supper_(Leonardo)
PS And only Judas looks dark skinned. Racist!
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Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
The real question is was the production any good?
It's a piece of theatre like pantos, and pantos gender bend.
to be fair Jesus Christ Superstar has been bleeding edge for years. Jason Donovan had the lead he is hardly rufti tufti.
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Originally posted by Gibbon View Post
Baptistry of Neon - Apostles mosaic - Baptistery of Neon - Wikipedia
Arian Baptistry ceiling mosaic - Ravenna - Arian Baptistery - Wikipedia
Well these very early depictions of Christ show a androgynous figure that could well be trans.
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
Something like this perhaps. https://www.joe.co.uk/entertainment/...e-judas-375546
It's a piece of theatre like pantos, and pantos gender bend.
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