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Previously on "My Lunch"

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

    Have you looked into the origins of the word?
    I'm sure you've posted it here before. Seems fairly irrelevant to the current usage. It's just another terrible phrase like "being the best version of yourself" or "he's a great human" or "living your best life"

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post

    No, the woke people bring it on themselves by being disproportionately keen to let everyone know they are aware and upset by social injustices, and do nothing about it. And choosing such a stupid trendy word doesn't help. It's just hipster posturing.
    Have you looked into the origins of the word?

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post


    Woke has been hijacked to mean bad by the people who act badly in the first place.
    No, the woke people bring it on themselves by being disproportionately keen to let everyone know they are aware and upset by social injustices, and do nothing about it. And choosing such a stupid trendy word doesn't help. It's just hipster posturing.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    Kyiv is their spelling. Changing to use it could be considered woke in the literal sense, but hardly in a bad way.

    Woke has been hijacked to mean bad by the people who act badly in the first place.

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  • OwlHoot
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    .. Has the Blue Boy pub I used to go to been renamed?
    They had to keep up with the times - It's called the Smurf Arms now!

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  • d000hg
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    Kyiv is their spelling. Changing to use it could be considered woke in the literal sense, but hardly in a bad way.

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  • NotAllThere
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    I remember discussing a plough-person's lunch with a radical feminist 30 years ago.

    Has the Blue Boy pub I used to go to been renamed?

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post

    It's not woke - Kyiv is the correct spelling, which on its own should be enough but given current events (open war started by Russia against Ukraine) this is even more important.
    We were spelling it the invader way because we didn't realise it was an injustice to not use the Ukrainian spelling. Now we are all woken up.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Interestingly renaming chicken Kiev to chicken Kyiv is equally as woke but wasn't mentioned in the Fail article I copied and pasted.
    It's not woke - Kyiv is the correct spelling, which on its own should be enough but given current events (open war started by Russia against Ukraine) this is even more important.
    Last edited by AtW; 28 March 2022, 17:56.

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  • SueEllen
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    Interestingly renaming chicken Kiev to chicken Kyiv is equally as woke but wasn't mentioned in the Fail article I copied and pasted.

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  • SueEllen
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    Yeah that's why the whole thing is a joke about the pub being woke.

    The pub has invented plough person's lunch and got itself some attention courtesy of social media and the echo chamber of traditional media.

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  • WTFH
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    You learn something new every day… the term “ploughman’s lunch” was invented in 1957 by the Cheese Bureau. It’s from within the lifetime of most Wailers. Certainly not a term from the 1800s, or during the Empire. And no, your grandfather didn’t fight in the war for a pub to have a joke renaming his favourite meal…

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  • SueEllen
    started a topic My Lunch

    My Lunch

    I think I will have a plough person's lunch.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cancelled.html

    A picture of the pub's menu, complete with the new name of the dish, was posted on social media by Charlotte Deakins, 36.

    She told the Telegraph: 'Quite frankly, my reaction is that it is pandering and dangerous, unless the pub owners have done it in a tongue-in-cheek manner and I hope they have.

    'The tweet has gained some traction and people are absolutely sick of the nonsense and having to pussyfoot around because of a small minority who are eternally offended.'

    Reacting on social media, one person said: 'Definitely a place to avoid. Ploughperson's lunch? Even spellcheck won't accept it.'
    Another wrote: 'Ploughperson…ffs…world's properly gone mad.'

    While a third said: 'I actually thought this was a joke until I saw their website. Gobsmacked why anyone would change ploughman's to ploughperson's, and The Tors Inn, Dartmoor, have the audacity to advertise a 'traditional pub menu'. One to avoid.'

    In response to the outcry, Dicky Harrison, the landlord of The Tors pub, said on Sunday: 'The menu item was just meant as a bit of tongue in cheek. We live in a farming community with amazing women and men farming the land.

    'It's just a bit of fun and a nod to the amazing ladies who work the land here. I didn't think it would cause offence, but in reality, women plough too.'

    The ploughman's lunch is just the latest dish to be renamed in recent months.

    In January, Marks & Spencer renamed Midget Gems sweets to Mini Gems after a disability campaigner claimed that their name could offend those with dwarfism.

    Dr Erin Pritchard, a lecturer in disability and education, told supermarkets that the term midget was 'a form of hate speech'.

    The Liverpool Hope University academic criticised stores, as well as comedians and TV shows, for continuing to use the word.

    Dr Pritchard – who has achondroplasia, the most common form of dwarfism – said: 'The word midget is a form of hate speech and contributes to the prejudice that people with dwarfism experience on a daily basis.

    'Having spoken with various firms about the use of the word midget, it's clear that many companies are simply unaware of just how offensive the term is, and I've had to explain to them why it's such an issue.'

    Midget gems were first created by the Yorkshire based Lion Confectionery who have been making sweets since 1903.

    Dr Pritchard acknowledged that some people may think the change is part of 'cancel culture' but argued 'when people scream the name at you in the street, it is only right that it is removed'.

    'The change should have happened years ago. It is easy for people not called the word to think its removal is wrong,' Dr Pritchard, who also appeared in Channel 4's Dating with Dwarfism, said.

    She added that she had asked Amazon to remove novelty items which use the term but acknowledged it would not be possible to rename items no longer in production such as the MG Midget car or the Daihatsu Midget minivan.

    An M&S spokesman confirmed the rebranding and said: 'We are committed to being an inclusive retailer - from how we support our colleagues, through to the products we offer and the way we market them to our 32 million customers.

    'Following suggestions from our colleagues and the insights shared by Dr Erin Pritchard, we introduced new mini gem packaging last year, which has since been rolled out to all of our stores.'

    The chain also changed the name of its canned version of the pornstar martini cocktail to Passion Star Martini, after feminist campaigners complained it was 'normalising porn'.

    Last June, Waitrose rebranded its Kaffir lime leaves following complaints the name was racist.

    The word 'kaffir' was replaced with 'makrut' because the previous term is also a slur used to describe black African people in South Africa.

    Several supermarkets and companies, including Co-Op, have also released gender-neutral gingerbread people, rather than gingerbread men.

    In September, a historic pub changed its name after more than 200 years 'because of the Black Lives Matter movement'.

    The Black Boy Inn, in Bewdley, Worcestershire, is now called The Bewdley Inn.

    The current leaseholders said Stonegate Pubs, the brewery which owns the 15th Century tavern, ordered them to change the name 'because of the Black Lives Matter movement' and that they had 'no say in it'.

    Furious locals have blasted the move, accusing the company of 'giving into woke'.

    However, the owners said the pub was renamed as part of a company rebrand and disagreed with accusations it was to do with race.

    Primark also recently came under fire for changing its maternity section to a 'parenthood collection'.

    The high street retailer was accused of bowing to 'woke' ideals after it promoted the collection in a post that did not explicitly mention maternity, women or mothers.

    The post read: 'Introducing our A/W parenthood collection. From floaty frocks to simple jersey staples, say hello to our hero pieces you need to curate your capsule pregnancy wardrobe.'

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