Well that is an improvement

[TestMangler]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60282554



and the improvements in appeals is welcome.

On a pint of order Mr Chairman, private companies cannot levy a 'fine'. These parking tickets are invoices, not fines.

[Gibbon]

Hehe! Give me a carvery any day over some fancy Frenchified nouvelle cuisine Michelin five star restaurant, which serves up tiny sparrow piss-take portions on square plates or roof tiles, or in an old boot probably (I wouldn't be surprised if some pretentious chef has tried that), and then charges ten times what a carvery would cost!

You've just described the meat portion of a carvery, either that or you're a vegan

[OwlHoot]

It's just scumbag, dregs of the planet, that go to these places I can't abide. ..

Hehe! Give me a carvery any day over some fancy Frenchified nouvelle cuisine Michelin five star restaurant, which serves up tiny sparrow piss-take portions on square plates or roof tiles, or in an old boot probably (I wouldn't be surprised if some pretentious chef has tried that), and then charges ten times what a carvery would cost!

[Lance]

INKSPE!

the Carveries themselves are OK.*
It's just scumbag, dregs of the planet, that go to these places I can't abide. Worse than Wetherspoons*. At least 'spoons has some normal(ish) drinkers amongst the scrotes.

* : I've never been but my butler informs me his stepson's best mate has been once.

[ladymuck]

Yep, had that a couple of times with Toby Carveries

INKSPE!

[OwlHoot]

Eskilent! Some of these companies are rip off merchants. My son got done a few years ago for parking in a pub car park at night when the signs were right at the back and unlit. You don't expect to pay at a pub car park when you are a customer. Fortunately he won the appeal.

Yep, had that a couple of times with Toby Carveries, although the manager of the pub cancelled the tickets. The second time I was careful to type my reg number into their terminal, but _still_ had a fine! As I pointed out to him, and he vehemently agreed, pissing off customers with rip off parking fines is not the best way to encourage repeat visits!

[xoggoth]

Eskilent! Some of these companies are rip off merchants. My son got done a few years ago for parking in a pub car park at night when the signs were right at the back and unlit. You don't expect to pay at a pub car park when you are a customer. Fortunately he won the appeal.

[vetran]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60282554

Private car parks will have to display prices more clearly, introduce a fairer system for appeals and give drivers a grace period for lateness as part of a government crackdown.

Most fines will be capped at £50 - down from £100 currently - although higher financial penalties will remain for more serious breaches.

Operators that do not follow the rules could be barred from collecting fines from motorists, the government said.

The AA called the plans "much needed".

Minister for Levelling Up Neil O'Brien said: "Private firms issue roughly 22,000 parking tickets every day, often adopting a system of misleading and confusing signage, aggressive debt collection and unreasonable fees designed to extort money from motorists.

and the improvements in appeals is welcome.