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Previously on "Covid jabs for teenagers to improve mental health"

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  • saptastic
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    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    I'm sorry, mental health isn't a medical issue?
    My point is mental health has not been a consideration in any of the lockdowns and it has been always about "saving lives".
    So I find it inconsistent and actually confusing that he now uses mental health as a reason for the jab.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post

    As kids are much less likely to die than adults and less likely to get seriously ill, it makes sense politically and economically to give vaccines intended for 12-15 year olds this academic year to other countries.

    Foreign aid is basically using soft power and so would be giving vaccines to other specific countries.




    The kids don't normally die or get seriously ill but they do transmit and their grannies who can't have the vaccine tend to die.


    We could just help the other countries to make more vaccines in their own country and let them vaccinate themselves.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post

    It will reduce the chances of catching or transmitting the virus (by around 50%), thereby lowering its reproductive rate. Combined with other measures, if the reproductive rate can be brought below 1, then the virus will no longer spread.

    Quite simple really.

    As a side benefit the vaccines reduces the chance of getting ill and of dying if you do get infected.
    As kids are much less likely to die than adults and less likely to get seriously ill, it makes sense politically and economically to give vaccines intended for 12-15 year olds this academic year to other countries.

    Foreign aid is basically using soft power and so would be giving vaccines to other specific countries.





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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post

    The vaccine will not prevent you from catching or transmitting the virus.
    It will reduce the chances of catching or transmitting the virus (by around 50%), thereby lowering its reproductive rate. Combined with other measures, if the reproductive rate can be brought below 1, then the virus will no longer spread.

    Quite simple really.

    As a side benefit the vaccines reduces the chance of getting ill and of dying if you do get infected.

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    No, they don't.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post

    The vaccine will not prevent you from catching or transmitting the virus.
    The WHO disagree

    https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/co...ine-comparison

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post

    The vaccine will not prevent you from catching or transmitting the virus.
    Yes, it probably* will.

    *about 75% likely I think?

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  • d000hg
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    Originally posted by saptastic View Post
    Chris Whitty 'will approve Covid jabs for teenagers because it will boost their mental health and social development' but 12-15 year olds may only get ONE dose because of rare heart complication risk

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...al-health.html

    He is a medical advisor so I want to hear medical benefits for using a vaccine - his opinion on mental health is not relevant.
    I'm sorry, mental health isn't a medical issue?

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post

    The idea that there is a limited amount of vaccines sort of fly in the face of the fact the world created a few billion vaccines in a year and is building the capacity for booster shots.

    Its not either/or we need to produce enough for everyone at £2.50 a shot. Various governments need to pay for it, maybe we can all chip in, some dictators can sell their beamers.

    The first job of a government is to protect their citizens, inject the kids and stop it circulating in the schools just as we do with other illnesses.
    The vaccine will not prevent you from catching or transmitting the virus.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    In the long for us as a country it would be better for us to send the vaccines aboard for adults in other countries to have rather than giving it to secondary aged children.

    There are measures we should be taking to minimise children catching it and passing it on, but it seems easier for the government to just say jab children.
    The idea that there is a limited amount of vaccines sort of fly in the face of the fact the world created a few billion vaccines in a year and is building the capacity for booster shots.

    Its not either/or we need to produce enough for everyone at £2.50 a shot. Various governments need to pay for it, maybe we can all chip in, some dictators can sell their beamers.

    The first job of a government is to protect their citizens, inject the kids and stop it circulating in the schools just as we do with other illnesses.

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  • SueEllen
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    In the long for us as a country it would be better for us to send the vaccines aboard for adults in other countries to have rather than giving it to secondary aged children.

    There are measures we should be taking to minimise children catching it and passing it on, but it seems easier for the government to just say jab children.

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  • saptastic
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    No - but as I dont read the fail I saw it reported somewhere else than just googled and the article came up

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  • SueEllen
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    Do you have a better source? Sorry don't believe the Daily Mail when they quote stories.

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  • saptastic
    started a topic Covid jabs for teenagers to improve mental health

    Covid jabs for teenagers to improve mental health

    Chris Whitty 'will approve Covid jabs for teenagers because it will boost their mental health and social development' but 12-15 year olds may only get ONE dose because of rare heart complication risk

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...al-health.html

    He is a medical advisor so I want to hear medical benefits for using a vaccine - his opinion on mental health is not relevant.
    Chris Whitty worries about mental health impacts is a bit hypocritcal! and there is an acknowledged heart risk

    Do you think teenagers should get the jab?

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