Reply to: DOOM: Lake District

[vetran]

Nope his original employer was a well known cheapstake but atw was always saving money for his (successful) plan b

And atw is correct our insanely high house prices is why a lot of people don't have spare income.

Oi don't support aTw when I'm taking the mick out of him!

[eek]

So coming over here and undercutting wages to survive on was your USP? Strange how wages were depressed for decades now you want to pull the ladder up after you, you sure you aren't a boomer?

Not building enough dwellings to house a growing population is most of the problem not spreading jobs around the country is the other.

Nope his original employer was a well known cheapstake but atw was always saving money for his (successful) plan b

And atw is correct our insanely high house prices is why a lot of people don't have spare income.

[vetran]

Little - they shared houses, very compact - I used to rent a room when I started, and was lucky to be on my own in a lockable room, many shared rooms, some more than 2 people in it!

The reason house prices gone up is because of Govt supported lending - instead of letting market crash or actively prevent it from overheating by mandating proper checks on lending 25 years ago we had the opposite.

House price "inflation" is basically the key reason people don't have much money in their pockets.

So coming over here and undercutting wages to survive on was your USP? Strange how wages were depressed for decades now you want to pull the ladder up after you, you sure you aren't a boomer?

Not building enough dwellings to house a growing population is most of the problem not spreading jobs around the country is the other.

[AtW]

Indeed, I wonder what the effect of a few million EU citizens leaving will have on house costs?

Little - they shared houses, very compact - I used to rent a room when I started, and was lucky to be on my own in a lockable room, many shared rooms, some more than 2 people in it!

The reason house prices gone up is because of Govt supported lending - instead of letting market crash or actively prevent it from overheating by mandating proper checks on lending 25 years ago we had the opposite.

House price "inflation" is basically the key reason people don't have much money in their pockets.

[vetran]

Prices will go up a lot further with large scale (across many sectors) wage increases - then pensions will need to be increased.

A much better way would have been addressing cost of living - housing specifically as it’s a very large cost: allowing housing inflation was and still is far bigger error.

Indeed, I wonder what the effect of a few million EU citizens leaving will have on house costs?

[AtW]

Prices will go up a lot further with large scale (across many sectors) wage increases - then pensions will need to be increased.

A much better way would have been addressing cost of living - housing specifically as it’s a very large cost: allowing housing inflation was and still is far bigger error.

[vetran]

And then prices go up and eat up all the wage increases (which are taxable), excellent vetran’s plan

The prices have already gone up, purchasing power has been falling for decades. Try looking at some figures.

I see the personal attacks are back have you hit a wall with your logic then?

[AtW]

And then prices go up and eat up all the wage increases (which are taxable), excellent vetran’s plan

[vetran]

Good thing is we left the EU a couple of years ago, and with all the savings that resulted, these should soon be resulting in all the advances that were held back by cheap labour. Nothing to do with directors and shareholders wanting massive bonuses, or customers wanting low prices, all the fault of cheap labour.

Wages are going up despite bosses begging for cheap labour and idiots supporting them.

Imagine the 2 million on in work benefits getting a pay rise and not needing benefits anymore! Or the 930,000 seeking work getting a job.

[vetran]

If that was true then unemployment among native population would have been 50%+

Oh we only have 4.4 million workers in the UK then?

https://www.lindsays.co.uk/news-and-...ith-eu-workers

There are nearly 2.2 million EU workers living in the UK at the moment.

[AtW]

The main structural issue is that for decades public services and private industry have been allowed to rely on cheap labour from overseas, and neglected training and technical advances that would increase productivity.

If that was true then unemployment among native population would have been 50%+

[WTFH]

Indeed but sadly some people on here can't understand that.

Good thing is we left the EU a couple of years ago, and with all the savings that resulted, these should soon be resulting in all the advances that were held back by cheap labour. Nothing to do with directors and shareholders wanting massive bonuses, or customers wanting low prices, all the fault of cheap labour.

[vetran]

The main structural issue is that for decades public services and private industry have been allowed to rely on cheap labour from overseas, and neglected training and technical advances that would increase productivity.

Indeed but sadly some people on here can't understand that.

[OwlHoot]

not it doesn't which is why we need to fix the structural issues in our country.

The main structural issue is that for decades public services and private industry have been allowed to rely on cheap labour from overseas, and neglected training and technical advances that would increase productivity.

[vetran]

Does this mean you are doing your HGV test soon, as that's a very profitable business right now, due to the (in)decisions the government and their lackeys ?

Strangely I was talking to a mate last week. He fixes lorries for a living (fairly well paid) he is doing his cpc so he can moonlight driving lorries.

I have only changed when my career is doomed, I can either develop my career or increase my salary significantly. Lorry driving even at current elevated wages would be a significant cut for a skilled professional like me.

If you think £40-50k for a 70 hour week hanging around truck stops is a lot of money you need to stop working for NLyUK.