Reply to: One for WTFH

[vetran]

I'm sorry has someone hacked your account?

Its a moment of insanity, next I will start being nice!

[d000hg]

If you don't approve then don't lecture

I'm sorry has someone hacked your account?

[GigiBronz]

Completely disagree failing to disclose a scandal or covering up in the UK will get you or your organisation a massive fine and or jail time. A simple mistake won't.

What we might not be doing is setting our standards correctly.

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• Libel: In the US, if someone accuses you of lying about them in print and sues you, they need to prove that what you said was false. UK libel law reverses the burden of proof: when suing someone for libel, it’s up to the defendant to prove that what they said was true. More specifically, to win a libel case in the UK, the plaintiff only needs to demonstrate that the statement hurt their reputation; unlike in most situations in the US, they don’t also need to prove that the statement was false. A UK defendant can, of course, mount a defense that “it was true,” which is helpful if they can prove it. Also, in the UK, if (1) you are sued for libel, and (2) you are a newspaper, and (3) you are not a member of a particular special press oversight organization that most newspapers have refused to join, then you may be legally required to pay the attorneys’ fees for the person who filed the lawsuit, even if you win the case and are found to have done nothing wrong. (This provision of law has not yet taken effect; the legislation passed after the Leveson Inquiry.) See English defamation law - Wikipedia, The cost of libel reform, and American and British Defamation Suit Comparisons for more.

not sure if it covers what i was after. remember reading about it in Moneyland by Oliver Bullough.

[vetran]

yes, that is a bit better here, rule of law is better in the UK. I will give you that. Testing as well.
I would not encourage the same narrative US vs OTHERS. We are all humans and should work for a common goal.

On the other hand the litigation law in UK is a bit tricky and you would find why many public people/companies prefer to hide behind it - because freedom of speech might not have a foot to stand on in court.
So at the same time it is less likely for a scandal to reach the press if the originator is within UK jurisdiction.

Completely disagree failing to disclose a scandal or covering up in the UK will get you or your organisation a massive fine and or jail time. A simple mistake won't.

What we might not be doing is setting our standards correctly.

[GigiBronz]

That was the point , our recent food scandals have come from abroad. Yes our quality could be better but our safety is mainly better than most.

yes, that is a bit better here, rule of law is better in the UK. I will give you that. Testing as well.
I would not encourage the same narrative US vs OTHERS. We are all humans and should work for a common goal.

On the other hand the litigation law in UK is a bit tricky and you would find why many public people/companies prefer to hide behind it - because freedom of speech might not have a foot to stand on in court.
So at the same time it is less likely for a scandal to reach the press if the originator is within UK jurisdiction.

[vetran]

I would not have a problem eating horse meat if it had taste and gown without hormones.
Meat is actually good in the UK, the one raised organically and grass fead.
But the rest of products, in general are sub-par.

People have to be aware of it and increase their standards. I do believe it is the prime driver of obesity and serious health conditions. But it won't come for free, supermarkets one day deciding to put better products on their shelves.

In the end you are what you eat.

That was the point , our recent food scandals have come from abroad. Yes our quality could be better but our safety is mainly better than most.

[GigiBronz]

Its difficult to get quality Horse meat over here?

I would not have a problem eating horse meat if it had taste and gown without hormones.
Meat is actually good in the UK, the one raised organically and grass fead.
But the rest of products, in general are sub-par.

People have to be aware of it and increase their standards. I do believe it is the prime driver of obesity and serious health conditions. But it won't come for free, supermarkets one day deciding to put better products on their shelves.

In the end you are what you eat.

[vetran]

There are exceptions of course but most of the food that you find in supermarkets is of sub par quality. Restaurants as well. If you compare the quality with what you find in Europe, including Eastern Europe, quality is lower and price is higher.

You have to stick with buying from butchers, premium supermarkets and only go to select restaurants.

Myself and flatmate, both Romanians, struggle to find decent food in Canary Wharf and surroundings, without breaking the bank. There are a few restaurants or takeaways that you discover by trial and error and the only reason those exist is because there are affluent people in the area and made it feasible for them to open and maintain decent standards here.

We avoid Asda or Tesco and mostly use amazon prime and waitrose. Found an italian shop in Lewisham and were over the moon with that. There is a kebab shop that we buy from, a falafel takeaway place and an italian restaurant, a german restaurant. That is pretty much about it.

And most of the time you are at, £20-£30 per meal so not quite sure how many people are willing to spend that.

Its difficult to get quality Horse meat over here?

[GigiBronz]

Yes because we all eat exactly the same food.....

There are exceptions of course but most of the food that you find in supermarkets is of sub par quality. Restaurants as well. If you compare the quality with what you find in Europe, including Eastern Europe, quality is lower and price is higher.

You have to stick with buying from butchers, premium supermarkets and only go to select restaurants.

Myself and flatmate, both Romanians, struggle to find decent food in Canary Wharf and surroundings, without breaking the bank. There are a few restaurants or takeaways that you discover by trial and error and the only reason those exist is because there are affluent people in the area and made it feasible for them to open and maintain decent standards here.

We avoid Asda or Tesco and mostly use amazon prime and waitrose. Found an italian shop in Lewisham and were over the moon with that. There is a kebab shop that we buy from, a falafel takeaway place and an italian restaurant, a german restaurant. That is pretty much about it.

And most of the time you are at, £20-£30 per meal so not quite sure how many people are willing to spend that.

[SueEllen]

British people and food is not a subject you would like to start me on...

Yes because we all eat exactly the same food.....

[vetran]

British people and food is not a subject you would like to start me on...

you mean there as an opinion we would be interested in?

[GigiBronz]

Here you go!

British people and food is not a subject you would like to start me on...

[vetran]

do you have dailymail as homepage?

Here you go!

[vetran]

You're saying DM/Sun don't have bias? They are certainly as biased as other non-paywall options. You also seem to equate "most read" with "best" or "reliable". Come on, make the trolling believable

Everything has bias. The question is the bias obvious enough you can ignore it? In the wail it normally is, they are also normally the fastest with the news.

Read what you like, I DO.

If you don't approve then don't lecture

[d000hg]

Do you have anything intelligent to say?

Its the most read paper apart from the Sun. I can link to that if you want.

All the other papers are behind a paywall or have slavery links and bias...

You're saying DM/Sun don't have bias? They are certainly as biased as other non-paywall options. You also seem to equate "most read" with "best" or "reliable". Come on, make the trolling believable