Reply to: Police National Computer

[NigelJK]

I did also note that the data was described, by themselves so could be misleading, as Records of arrests where NFA was taken. So the question here is whether the 'deletion' was deliberate as holding this kind of data is very contentious. Storing of ALL DNA evidence collected is similarly contentious.

[darmstadt]

Large enterprise provider like IBM (was?)

I have to say darmy you have really came out as a cretin this year, I'll have to add a Suprise New Entry category just for you.

You are so easy to wind up, I sometimes think you're a little bit Trumpian, what, with your fascination for guns, the constant posting of bollocks on the Internet, the list goes on and on and the phrase you were looking for is 'plug compatible' and you still don't know what you're talking about which is also very Trumpian...

[AtW]

What on earth is an IBM alike? Not only do you still don't know what you're talking about, you don't even know what you're writing

Large enterprise provider like IBM (was?)

I have to say darmy you have really came out as a cretin this year, I'll have to add a Suprise New Entry category just for you.

[darmstadt]

What on earth is an IBM alike? Not only do you still don't know what you're talking about, you don't even know what you're writing

And how many people on here pay massive premium for vendors like IBM alikes if it was their own money vs viable much cheaper alternatives?

IBM alikes was ok in 70s, 80s maybe even 90s. but certainly not past 2010

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[AtW]

And how many people on here pay massive premium for vendors like IBM alikes if it was their own money vs viable much cheaper alternatives?

IBM alikes was ok in 70s, 80s maybe even 90s. but certainly not past 2010

[vetran]

I can still restore data from 10 years ago, you have to remember that these systems have been going for years so their procedures tend to have evolved over time and are pretty failsafe apart from 'between chair and keyboard problem' which seems to have happened here

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Only 10 years ago? We have 30 years ago.

[vetran]

AIX and AS/400 are not mainframes I'm afraid, in fact one is an operating system

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Doh, I know that, however the gouging is apparently the same. As aTw says its peanuts for storage.

[AtW]

You still have no idea what you're talking about do you?

I have good idea how to solve complex large scale data problems without paying King's ransom for it.

[BR14]

so who's cat's got the biggest bolloks?

[darmstadt]

You still have no idea what you're talking about do you?

Govt is big enough of a client to have multiple fully owned secure data centers (not with ancient mainframes either) - it's not like digital storage is something that will disappear anytime soon.

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[darmstadt]

I can still restore data from 10 years ago, you have to remember that these systems have been going for years so their procedures tend to have evolved over time and are pretty failsafe apart from 'between chair and keyboard problem' which seems to have happened here

Well I hope you do have backups

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[AtW]

Well yes, very true. That would work really well with a national police database covering everything from ANPR records to anti-terrorism intelligence.

Govt is big enough of a client to have multiple fully owned secure data centers (not with ancient mainframes either) - it's not like digital storage is something that will disappear anytime soon.

[darmstadt]

AIX and AS/400 are not mainframes I'm afraid, in fact one is an operating system

It was an attempt at humour.

But are you saying buying a disk from the approved supplier like Fujitsu is anywhere the same cost as buying from Insight or similar? If you don't buy from the vendor how does that affect your maintenance?

The PNC mainframe is a modern one then?

Buying a server disk from the manufacturer was normally 2+ times the price of buying in channel.

My experience was with AIX & As400 boxes 10 - 20 years ago, it may have changed since then but I doubt it.

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[malvolio]

Obviously not (flash is the most expensive part tho made by very few firms now), and obviously Fujitsu with their prices should have been told to fook right off.

No wonder people flock to AWS

Well yes, very true. That would work really well with a national police database covering everything from ANPR records to anti-terrorism intelligence.

[AtW]

Thought so. But is it made by Fujitsu and sold to the Government?

Obviously not (flash is the most expensive part tho made by very few firms now), and obviously Fujitsu with their prices should have been told to fook right off.

No wonder people flock to AWS