Reply to: Scottish secession: the battle for indyref2 reaches court

[ladymuck]

Which court? The tennis court?

[minestrone]

Salmond was a master of economic persuasion, a true master...

"we put in more than we take out"

...was justified because we were not borrowing as much.

He should be selling home reversion plans to 80 year olds.

[minestrone]

FactCheck: has Scotland ‘subsidised the rest of the UK’? – Channel 4 News

"The fact that the Scottish government has not updated or revised these figures since 2013 makes it impossible for us to stand up Mr Blackford’s claim at the moment."

This is just gibberish.

The assertions made in the white paper in 2013 come from the Scottish Government stats. These are published yearly and I believe go back 40 years. The SNP claim these are the "the authoritative publication on Scotland's public finances" yet C4 then quote and claim the information is "experimental".

Blackford is a total idiot. I mean he is beyond stupid to the extent the only reasonable assumption to make is he is there deliberately as an idiot. Probably to stop Joanna Cherry from getting a leg up and challenging Sturgeon.

Cherry is just moderately unlikeable which makes her one of the stand out personalities of the SNP. A QC which dwarfs Sturgeon's "I've got a law degree" and has actually come out as a lesbian.

[vetran]

Putting a price on subsidy now?

FTFY.

[AtW]

FactCheck: has Scotland ‘subsidised the rest of the UK’? – Channel 4 News

Putting a price on sovereignty now?

[vetran]

Maybe it’s like Brexit. Most Brexiteers seem content that there will be an economic price to pay.

We will see. lets hope they make the best decision for everyone.

[Old Greg]

FactCheck: has Scotland ‘subsidised the rest of the UK’? – Channel 4 News

Maybe it’s like Brexit. Most Brexiteers seem content that there will be an economic price to pay.

[vetran]

based on our exit deal we we probably should hand back 15% of the oil revenues then have a few hundred years for our oil companies to adjust followed by something about independence for Shetland.

FactCheck: has Scotland ‘subsidised the rest of the UK’? – Channel 4 News

Back in 2013, it was possible to use these figures to back the idea that Scotland paid slightly more into the UK’s coffers than it took out. That’s if you add up the tax and spending in those years cumulatively, and if you make a number of assumptions about Scotland’s finances, all of which are subject to argument.But the overall balance was close, according to one detailed analysis: even making concessions to nationalist arguments about Scotland’s likely historic debt, higher UK public spending on Scotland almost completely cancelled out any surplus created by “Scottish” oil.
The fact that the Scottish government has not updated or revised these figures since 2013 makes it impossible for us to stand up Mr Blackford’s claim at the moment.

[minestrone]

Something about oil followed by something about independence for Shetland.

Jew? Are you JEW.

[minestrone]

"Maybe the Scottish people"

[Old Greg]

FTFY

Something about oil followed by something about independence for Shetland.

[vetran]

Maybe the Scottish people don’t want to be in a UK superstate with all those additional layers of government, bureaucracy, free cash and red tape.

FTFY

[minestrone]

Scotland can’t make its own free trade deals!

Do they have borerline ****wit as a pass mark on the "let a ****** idiot in" test?

[minestrone]

Scotland got no control over borders!

Wild if true.

[AtW]

Maybe the Scottish people don’t want to be in a UK superstate with all those additional layers of government, bureaucracy and red tape.

Scotland got no control over borders!