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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    The intent was clear from the start a Federal Europe run by Germany & France, each treaty has been a step towards that goal.
    What is clear to a cretin like you is of little importance.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    German efficiency at its best!
    We neglected to claim the VAT back this time.

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  • clearedforlanding
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    The intent was clear from the start a Federal Europe run by Germany & France, each treaty has been a step towards that goal.
    Cool! So you will be able to provide a citation if the intent is clear.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    IMHO he's blaming the wrong treaty.

    https://europa.eu/european-union/sit...n_union_en.pdf

    No mention anywhere of a democratic vote of the people. God forbid they produce the wrong result.

    The intent was clear from the start a Federal Europe run by Germany & France, each treaty has been a step towards that goal.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    Germany has closed its borders from midnight last night, with a few exceptions. Nipping across the border to do some food shopping isn't one of them, as the lady at the checkout told us this morning as we paid... oops.

    Car park full of Swiss cars as well.

    But at least France is still open to us.

    German efficiency at its best!

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  • NotAllThere
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    Germany has closed its borders from midnight last night, with a few exceptions. Nipping across the border to do some food shopping isn't one of them, as the lady at the checkout told us this morning as we paid... oops.

    Car park full of Swiss cars as well.

    But at least France is still open to us.

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by clearedforlanding View Post
    Humour me please with a citation from the treaty.
    IMHO he's blaming the wrong treaty.

    https://europa.eu/european-union/sit...n_union_en.pdf

    No mention anywhere of a democratic vote of the people. God forbid they produce the wrong result.

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
    Nope

    Sent from my 5g carrier pigeon
    Gissa clue then.

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  • darmstadt
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    Nope
    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    Building a fence to keep out illegal immigrants isn't the same thing*. (If that's what you were referring to?)

    *I'm not condoning that, btw.
    Sent from my 5g carrier pigeon

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
    That has actually happened, Google is your friend

    Sent from my 5g carrier pigeon
    Building a fence to keep out illegal immigrants isn't the same thing*. (If that's what you were referring to?)

    *I'm not condoning that, btw.

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  • clearedforlanding
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    You might want to try the 1957 treaty of Rome.
    Humour me please with a citation from the treaty.

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by clearedforlanding View Post
    So Mordac does not have a source. Vetran, can you help him out?
    They're not going to publish their intentions in a manifesto. Read the rantings of Selmayr, it's all in there. The future European Government, designed from the ground up to by-pass democracy. If you didn't get the chance to put them there, what chance do you think you'll ever have to remove any of them?

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  • xoggoth
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    No friend of the Frogs and I loathe Macaroni Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey but it isn't unreasonable to protect your own citizens.

    Not sure it will help much tho. as there are virus mutations in several other countries according to the news.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by clearedforlanding View Post
    So Mordac does not have a source. Vetran, can you help him out?

    You might want to try the 1957 treaty of Rome.

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  • darmstadt
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    That has actually happened, Google is your friend
    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    What if they (or another nation) want to close the border with another EU member? Covid has opened a can of worms, shutting borders is against free movement. Give it a couple of years, and no EU member will be permitted to close its borders. For any reason. One Europe, all in it together.
    Sent from my 5g carrier pigeon

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